Who does really good uppers these days?

[NuJudge]

Who does really good Service Rifle uppers? Also, who does a good job rebarreling?

[snell]

John Holliger of White Oak Precision is one of the country's premier AR smiths and a competitior (of national fame) himself. His website is:

White Oak Precision - Service Rifle Uppers (http://www.whiteoakprecision.com/uppers-service.htm)

He also does a superb job of re-barreling as well as tuning RRA triggers, pining rear sights etc.. and, he's a nice guy to talk to.

Art

PS

Carl Bernosky won last year's NRA High Power rifle championship (2384 out of 2400) with a WOA match upper. That's a pretty good commercial in my book.

[oney]

+ 1 for John Hollinger at White Oak Armament/Precision!

http://www.whiteoakarmament.com/

[Fick_2141]

Also Compass Lake Engineering make great competition uppers.

[da gimp]

I'd have to go with recommending White Oak Prec. here, have 1 of his service rifle RR AR's with a 1-7 Krieger, sight job,float tube & service rifle match trigger, if I could only convince HER, we would have 2 of his rifles in our safe.

da gimp

Old Farts Club, Mo.Chapter

NRA Life/Endowment

[Mudcat]

Get a WOA with the WIlson bbl. I guarantee you that it will outshoot YOU and the rest of us! No need to spend the big bucks on the Krieger, PacNor, etc.

Yeah, might be a few bucks more than a RRA, but you will soon discover its worth it. Oh, and get the pinned rear sight while you are at it.

John

[limazulu]

Get a WOA with the WIlson bbl. I guarantee you that it will outshoot YOU and the rest of us! No need to spend the big bucks on the Krieger, PacNor, etc.

Yeah, might be a few bucks more than a RRA, but you will soon discover its worth it. Oh, and get the pinned rear sight while you are at it.

John

Mudcat, how big an improvement does a pinned rear sight get you?

[M1Tommy]

Mudcat, how big an improvement does a pinned rear sight get you?

I'd be interested in this also, and the cost. I likely missed it, but didn't see it on the web site.

Tommy

[da gimp]

WOP's sights. he changed ours to 1/4" click, & they are VERY repeatable in settings. Write down your come up clicks for each range & windage too, with the White Oak sights, next time you need to shoot @ that range,with that load, it will work. Also make note of time of day, weather, sun, wind, mirage, it will help you.

JMO

da gimp

OFC, Mo. Chapter

[M1Tommy]

WOP's sights. he changed ours to 1/4" click, & they are VERY repeatable in settings. Write down your come up clicks for each range & windage too, with the White Oak sights, next time you need to shoot @ that range,with that load, it will work. Also make note of time of day, weather, sun, wind, mirage, it will help you.

JMO

da gimp

OFC, Mo. Chapter

I have emailed them with a couple questions.
Thanks!
Tommy

[John Kepler]

I'll ditto both John Holliger at WOP and Frank White at CLE. Both men are the "pick of the litter", both deliver what they say, when they say. Picking between them is tough...too tough to be meaningful.

[bblake]

I would agree with previous posters about WOP and Frank White. The competition shooting community tends to be small. Within the community it takes a fair amount of time to build a good reputation and a short amount to get a poor one. Either of these folks would build a first rate upper. I've never heard anything but praise for both, and have shot uppers made by both.

Brig Blake

[GSmith223]

I'd be interested in this also, and the cost. I likely missed it, but didn't see it on the web site.
Tommy

Tommy,
Dual pinned uprade is an extra $55
Go to http://www.whiteoakarmament.com/ and click on complete uppers and you'll see it. I have the option on all my uppers after owning my 1st Bushmaster upper than you had to keep adding windage going back from 300 then 600. With my White Oak pinned uppers the no wind windage zero is the same from 100 to 600 yards and VERY repeatable....

If the $55 is going to crimp the budget skip it and you'll be fine.
If you can swing it definately get it...

George

[M1Tommy]

Tommy,
Dual pinned uprade is an extra $55
Go to http://www.whiteoakarmament.com/ and click on complete uppers and you'll see it. I have the option on all my uppers after owning my 1st Bushmaster upper than you had to keep adding windage going back from 300 then 600. With my White Oak pinned uppers the no wind windage zero is the same from 100 to 600 yards and VERY repeatable....

If the $55 is going to crimp the budget skip it and you'll be fine.
If you can swing it definately get it...

George

OK, That makes sense.. 'keeps the sight from canting as it rises, right?
Thanks!
Tommy

[John Kepler]

OK, That makes sense.. 'keeps the sight from canting as it rises, right?
Thanks!
Tommy

If and only if the job is done right! Pinning can induce as many problems as it "corrects" if the pins are even a fractional thou out-of-plumb! The only guy that consistently gets it right seems to be John Holliger!

[M1Tommy]

If and only if the job is done right! Pinning can induce as many problems as it "corrects" if the pins are even a fractional thou out-of-plumb! The only guy that consistently gets it right seems to be John Holliger!

I hear you. I can see issues w/ binding too.
I won't try 'home-smithing" this myself!

Thanks,
Tommy :beerchug:

[NMC_EXP]

Who does really good Service Rifle uppers? Also, who does a good job rebarreling?

Echoing several others - John Holliger, White Oak Arms / White Oak Precision.

[zertouche]

Rock River. I ordered a RR M4 HB in Feb and recd it yesterday. It is very well made and well worth the wait. There is not a single item or part, nor the construction that I can find even a minute flaw in.

All castings and construction are so close to tolerance that they are on the big end of the plus/minus column. The upper dropped into my 10 year old lower and is as tight as a bulls rear at fly time. I have the 10 pc 5.56 Brownells headspace gage set and it is right on the money. Its like it was hand fitted back when Colt actually made handguns back when employees made more than ten bucks an hour and computer controlled machines were a joke.

[Mudcat]

Mudcat, how big an improvement does a pinned rear sight get you?

Oops, sorry for the delay in responding. I think its well worth the $55 as you will not get ANY play in the rear sight after its pinned. It doesnt take much back at 600 to move you so why mess with a rear sight that will have some lash in it if its not pinned? You only do it once, then its done. They just rebarrel the upper ever 3000 or so rounds and you still got your pinned rear sight. For what John charges for his WOA upper, its a no brainer.

John

[AKA Hugh Uno]

as long as you have a decent trigger in your lower, you can get new or slightlty used DCM Bushmaster uppers for 500-600 bucks that will easily shoot 96% as well as a compass lake etc. unit. I have been VERY happy with my DCM Bushmaster for the past 10 years.