SCOPES looking for Rifles

[Badger]

How to use ~Angel~'s "Match Making" Service (click here) (http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=1031)

Scopes looking for Rifles

[Badger]

We have No.32 Mk1 "H.B.M. Co" scope Serial # 9769 in a No.4(T) sniper rifle mount marked AU9050 ..........

Looking for a matching No.4(T) sniper rifle, probably Serial # AU9050 .....

Thanks

Regards,
Badger

[Badger]

We have No.32 Mk1 "Watson" scope Serial # 1302 in a No.4(T) sniper rifle mount marked A37479 ..........

Looking for a matching No.4(T) sniper rifle, probably Serial # A37479 .....

Thanks

Regards,
Badger

[Badger]

I received an email from MILSURPS.COM member Amatikulu. He graciously forwarded a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet of information on No.32 scopes for the Enfield No.4(T) sniper rifle, which he got some years ago from a Dutch collector called Harry Bindels. I've converted the current spreadsheet to a universal PDF file and I'll try to contact Harry and get it updated, if possible. The spreadsheet has Dutch language headers, but there's a translation table at the very bottom to understand what they mean.

In essence it's a spreadsheet that attempted to track various scopes by serial number, as to where they were officered for sale, who sold them and also who bought them.


Tracking Spreadsheet for Sales of No.32 Sniper Scopes
by Harry Bindels

Note: Updated July 16th, 2009

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[JHC II]

I have a No 32 MK3, OS 2039A, No25629 bracket G3074 its sitting on a mismatched H&H conversion.

thanks

[CnRcollector]

Hello! This my first post here.

I am looking for No.32 Mk1 "H.B.M. Co" scope Serial # 9745.

I have a No.32 Mk1 "Watson" scope Serial # 1383, in a Roger Payne mount, available to trade for the H.B.M. scope ONLY.

Thanks, Chuck

[MarioP]

I have No.32 Mk1 Houghton-Butcher Serial # 3089 in a mount marked AU9042 ..........

It is on rifle AL4172. I have the transit chest as well as the scope case to match the scope....all that is mismatched is the rifle.

Anyone have the rifle?


Thanks

Regards,

Mario
Ottawa

[GreyFox]

Hi have a no.32 mk3 marked os 2039A in a mount marked 31842.

[Maple_Leaf_Eh]

I have rifle No.4T X33452 a 1945 BSA, marked for scope 24704. In its place I have Mk.III 24175, marked for rifle 33113. This orphan was bought and sold in Western Canada, likely from Canadian war reserves. Any kind souls know where it might be??

[Lance]

Looking for scope and hopefully mount for Scope #1186, I have #1319. Also looking for scope #17382 and mount. It is off a FTR rifle so mount might have multiple s/n's.

Finally looking for a BSA T s/n B36329

[Amatikulu]

I have a CTS made No.32 Mark 3 S/N 21526 in a bracket numbered to rifle L30431

In addition I have a CTS made No.32 Mark 3 S/N 20624 in a bracket numbered to rifle C33161 or 0C111 (same bracket but this number cancelled)

[cquickel]

Looking for T-99 Japanese sniper rifle SN 5567 to go with my 2.5 X 10 cut back scope no: 5567. Have already talked to Vic Soto

[Surpmil]

Know someone who could use Watson MkI 1423 and HBMCo. 3511

I'd be interested in MKII No.15169

PS: If posters here would put the numbers in bold face it would be easier for quick scanning of the pages.

[VonXulu]

Hi I have what I think to be one of the 1944 Canadian LONG BRANCH No.4 Mk I *'s that were not stamped with the "T" designation, Sn# 71L0xxx . The number by the top of the wrist is "C-307" if it is a legitamate rifle, would that be the the scope number that I would be looking for, for a restoration?

[Lee Enfield]

VZ54/56 looking for scope with mount serial # P1939
Scope with mount serial # P1804 to trade.

[jmoore]

Two No32 scopes no longer with their original rifles:

No32 MkI S/N 7636 formerly belonging to at least two other rifles- you have appropriate rifle S/N, then maybe we work out swap. It works very well and is my first No32 scope, so I'm kinda attached. Might rather swap rifles or something.

No32 MkII S/N 9335- but no bracket comes w/ it! Works fine, its on my most accurate No4(T). Will swap for another MkII scope that is in good working order or a scope number that I'm hunting. (See Rifles Looking for Scopes, please.)

[Surpmil]

Scopes I've had.

Can't be sure where they all are now!

1810 WW 1941
2538 WW 1942
2756 WW
2791 WW
3057 HBMCo. 1941
3503 HBMCo.
4484 HBMCo.
5218 HBMCo.
5251 HBMCo.
6389 KL
6593 KL
6873 KL
7204 KL
9765 HBMCo.
10127 HBMCo.
10648 HBMCo.
16973 AK&S 1944
21726 CT&S 1945 (L1A1)

[JamesB]

I have No 32 MkI HBMC No 9695 with mount for F37209

Also No 32 MkIII CTS No 20213 mount number 34710

[rgg_7]

Have scope #3246 Houghton Butcher in excellent condition. N92 bracket; no serial number.

Looking for #10211 Hougton Butcher(?). Also looking for #28560 Kershaw (?).

Thanks for reading this. Pls PM or best to email rgg_7@hotmail.com. Thanks, Ron

[Warren]

If anyone has this British no.4(T) sniper rifle and is missing the matching scope and can contact me. I have both the scope and can numbered to the rifle D30661
Sure we can arrange a trade or ??
Cheers,

If you want to move this to the "matching service" please feel free

[Promo]

Have No. 32 Mk III from A.K & S No. 17522 from 1945 with mount and can, matching to rifle 38492 Mk I.

[Surpmil]

This should be in the presently non-existent "Brackets/Mounts looking for Rifles/Scopes" thread:

Bracket (N92) for rifle AP6786, just sold on ePay for a measely $291.00 US. Seller was "kclarks"

[tower06]

This should be in the presently non-existent "Brackets/Mounts looking for Rifles/Scopes" thread:

Bracket (N92) for rifle AP6786, just sold on ePay for a measely $291.00 US. Seller was "kclarks"

And I am patiently waiting for its delivery at present. Should be in my hands tomorrow. Looks like a real mount, but I shall see when it arrives.

[vintage hunter]

Have no.32 mk.2 scope ser.# 8582 and bracket w/ # V32803. Bracket also has #A30890 thats been struck. Looking for bracket numbered A0075T.

[ickmann]

Have Scopes MK2 (MK1 converted) HBM Co. 11172/Mount# Q39297 and MK3 CTS 19430/Mount# H35063.

Looking for scopes #28412 and #20657

Thnx!

[derekr]

I have a 1943 Mk 1 scope No7980 on bracket No 32461. Looking for scope and bracket No 187 to mount on 1944 4T.

[RobsTV]

Have No32 MKIII 1944 A.K&S No 17262 with bracket No L32517

Looking for scope 27940 with bracket U32356

Thanks

[jimmieZ]

As the title says

[B & B ARSENAL]

I have REL No.32 Mk1A scope serial # 301-C in a No.4(T) sniper rifle mount marked 71L0322

Looking for matching Long Branch No.4 Mk 1* (T) sniper rifle Serial # 71L0322

Thanks

[Gav]

I have a Kershaw Mk II 8752 in poor condition and in need of attention, has its lens but missing bits including the top turrent assembly.

[Gav]

I have yet an other Kershaw, a Mk I, 7668 in good condition, clear lens and free adjustments, but is missing a couple of screws

[Lee Enfield]

Looking for REL 312-C. Preferably in the original Long Branch rings...

312-C Should be either a No32MkI or No32MkIA

At this point I would have an REL scope & rings to trade

looking for Scopes:

No32
10438
11247
24687
25453
25829

No32TP
4358s

VZ54/57 looking for scope with mount rifle serial # P1939

to trade:
No32
15015
20213
24511
26146
28031

No32TP
4650s

REL No32MkI
175-C

Will trade for REL No32MkI, REL C.No32MkIA or REL C.No32Mk4 scope in LB rings if you have the rifle originally numbered to the 175-C scope.

VZ54/57 Scope with mount serial # P1804

[WW2GURU]

I have scope 10593 hbmc and looking for 24054

[wats6831]

I just found what I believe is a first production run No 32 Mk 1 HCM Co REG 3958 with original rings and JG mount. The scope is in good condition with original finish but the brass is showing in places.

I would love to find the rifle for this scope or ANY matching parts. Please feel free to PM me if you have any comments about this scope. I believe it's a VERY rare first production run from the original first contract awarded to HCM circa 1941.

No 32 Scope pictures by wats6831 - Photobucket (http://s1099.photobucket.com/albums/g400/wats6831/No%2032%20Scope/)

[Surpmil]

Nice find Wats6831. It's not my impression that an HBM scope from the 3000 range is that unusual. I had several in the past, including one numbered 3057, which was a bit unique in that it was dated 1941 in the engraved markings. That was apparently dropped for "security" reasons shortly after.

The reason there are so many MkI scopes around is that there was a post-war refurbishment program that replaced perhaps most of them with later types. I was told by a now deceased surplus dealer in the UK who specialized in optics in a very big way, that his firm had bought about 5000 MkI scopes from the MoD during the 1950s and used to sell them for �£5.00 each in the case with the mounts. Mind you, £5 was about an average week's wage in 1950 and it hadn't changed much by 1960 from what I've read!

[wats6831]

Nice find Wats6831. It's not my impression that an HBM scope from the 3000 range is that unusual. I had several in the past, including one numbered 3057, which was a bit unique in that it was dated 1941 in the engraved markings. That was apparently dropped for "security" reasons shortly after.

The reason there are so many MkI scopes around is that there was a post-war refurbishment program that replaced perhaps most of them with later types. I was told by a now deceased surplus dealer in the UK who specialized in optics in a very big way, that his firm had bought about 5000 MkI scopes from the MoD during the 1950s and used to sell them for �£5.00 each in the case with the mounts. Mind you, £5 was about an average week's wage in 1950 and it hadn't changed much by 1960 from what I've read!


Thanks for the information. Considering reproductions of these scopes are going for several hundred USD. Especially considering it was made during the first production run, and no more than 4,000 of these can be existence. I had thought that "early" scopes had an added meaning but sounds like not. From what I can tell these are starting to bring quite a premium. Thanks again.

[Surpmil]

No32 MkI William Watson No.1809 seen. This would have been fitted to a trials No.4 originally I believe.

[paulseamus]

Searching for scope 20211 to fit rifle H38302

I have the following to trade.

WW 2707 Mk1
KL 6066 Mk1
HBM 10659 Mk2
HBM 10930 MK2

All of the above have been refurbished by Peter Laidler via Fultons

Paul

[Damianos]

I have
Scope HBM No. 32 Mk 1 4099
Also mount with AK 9068

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