View Full Version : P1907 w hooked quillion
04-10-2007, 12:51 PM
What is up with these things lately? I have always kept my eyes open for them, but have seen very few. In the last couple of months, I think I have come across 3 on Ebay - and that is just within items located in Canada. Have a number of these recently been found somewhere, or is some crafty individual taking older bayonets and adding the hook for profit? Any ideas?
04-10-2007, 01:12 PM
They are being recreated or faked.
04-10-2007, 01:17 PM
Google International Military Antiques. Click bayonets.
04-10-2007, 01:56 PM
Some may be real. Many are fakes. All you need is some scrap steel, skill with a file and a TIG welder to make a good fake. scary stuff, but sadly true.
04-10-2007, 02:04 PM
I just picked up 3 of them and mine are legit. Got then from an old friend who has had them for 30-40 years. Stamped "AUSTRALIA" on the wood grip.
What are they worth?
04-10-2007, 06:04 PM
Real ones are easily $200+ bayonets.
04-10-2007, 08:31 PM
I'll buy all I can at $200.00, especially Australian ones
04-10-2007, 09:03 PM
I must correct myself. One is a hooked quillion, the other 2 are without.
04-10-2007, 10:10 PM
I just looked at the International Military Antiques site. Bugger! I feel bad for the new guys coming into collecting with all that fake crap floating around. It just emphasizes how important it is to get good books and study this stuff as much as you can before you lay down your money. Fortunately, I picked up my Pattern 1907 with hook a few years back, and it IS original.
04-11-2007, 09:56 AM
The last Australian hookie I saw on ebay went for about $600 US,the winning bid was from Australia.There's 2 british ones listed on ebay.ca,one was up 2 or 3 weeks ago + went for over $400 + has been relisted with a reserve,seller must have had dead bidders.
04-11-2007, 06:08 PM
Ebay is getting filled with punters and con artists. I've seen and heard of so many scams in the last while. Trying to get anything of decent quality and price is like playing Russian roulette with an auto loader.
04-12-2007, 12:20 PM
When I started collecting, a fake was indeed a rarity, today it is the norm. One must ask many questions and see a lot of good stuff before investing. I haven't gotten burned on edge weapons and have been collecting around thirty years, I wish I could say the same about U.S. rifles.-SDH
05-10-2007, 06:36 PM
Keep in mind they made up a bunch for the Movie Gallipoli. Then there are the fakes coming out of Afghanistan.
And Just for fun, wanna guess what my Australian machete bayonet is worth?
and yes, it's NOT a fake.
A square 10
08-21-2007, 10:05 AM
it is indeed a shame that they are being faked , they do bring a fair dollar as well , ill second the statement - ill take all i can get at $200 , and turn a tidy profit for sure :)
the markings will often keep you from making a mistake , but even those are being faked so it behooves one to 'know' before buying
08-21-2007, 10:34 AM
Here's one currently being auctioned ....
RARE P1907 BAYONET WITH QUILLON MINT CONDITION - Military Surplus Collectors Forums (http://www.milsurps.com/vbclassified.php?do=ad&id=284)
It's currently bidding at over $500 U.S. :D
A square 10
08-22-2007, 04:04 PM
"ER" is OK with a 10/08 date , so that seems in keeping with a legit hookie , and wilkinson and mole were first to produce the P07 and 08 was the first year of production so ill buy that , there is no clearing hole[thats good:) ] and the hook looks to be the right size and shape , the overmarks are not all that clear but a 1910/1915 cleanup is ok with it still having its hook , yet 1910 seems early for rework when not much was going on to require it in only two years use yet if it had been abused in trials - who knows ? really so does 1915 for that matter yet it could have seen some very early war wear and tear i supose , i guess a lot could be expected of a 100year old bayo but im not real convinced of the apparent wear of the blade in the areas of the markings and the crisp 1907 and other marks ,
wonder where it will stop at ?
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