Artillery Luger "Snail" Drum

[Light Infantry]

Anyone know what the rules are for selling a snail drum into the USA?

Can i do this?

Thanks in advance for your input.

Light Infantry

[Claven2]

Selling it INTO the USA? Shouldn't be a problem considering the "AWB" sunsetted so they have no mag limits now.

[Stevo]

Selling it INTO the USA? Shouldn't be a problem considering the "AWB" sunsetted so they have no mag limits now.


Some states have individual laws that make the AWB look kind. Besides, given the rarity and exemption from mag limits, you could probably get what you're pricing at in Canada.

[Claven2]

Some states have individual laws that make the AWB look kind. Besides, given the rarity and exemption from mag limits, you could probably get what you're pricing at in Canada.

True enough... in fact you may get more in Canada b/c it's a legal standard capacity (I absolutely LOATH the term "hi-cap") magazine.

[villiers]

Some very well made repro snail drums (TM 08) have appeared on the market lately here in Germany. Reportedly made in Bulgaria. But prices do not seem to have decreased a lot. With a folding lever approx 1.000€. Telescopic lever, quite a bit more. But they´re not much use without the loading tool.

[arado]

Some states have individual laws that make the AWB look kind. Besides, given the rarity and exemption from mag limits, you could probably get what you're pricing at in Canada. I had one in Ohio. Found out the 32 round is two over the Ohio max. A centerfire weapon with a magazine over 30 rounds is a machine gun. sold it to Canada many years ago. Maybe the same one. Gary

[bob seijas]

A new book on the TM-08 is at the publishers (Mowbray) and in the final stages to printing. Lots of new info on makers, serial ranges, markings, types, changes, etc. Also a ton of great photos. Should be on sale in a month. You will like it :)

[Johnny Peppers]

The "Snail Drum" photographs nice, but the rig is much more fun to shoot with the standard magazine. I will admit that I don't shoot this one though. It is one of a handful of 1914 dated DWM LP.08 known.

http://i48.tinypic.com/2cxjfxf.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/2s7du2t.jpg

[Badger]

Beautiful pics Johnny ... :thup:

Thanks for posting them ... :)

What kind of camera setup do you use?

Regards,
Badger

[Johnny Peppers]

Just a quick quiz, but does anyone know why the hinge pin for the back sight is drilled eccentric?

http://i50.tinypic.com/ilhbbl.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/3492xrm.jpg

[Johnny Peppers]

Beautiful pics Johnny ... :thup:

Thanks for posting them ... :)

What kind of camera setup do you use?

Regards,
Badger

I hate to admit it, but the camera is an old Canon A80, and the pictures are made under room light. When I remodeled my "toy room" I spent a couple of weeks looking at different lighting, and finally decided on two fluorescent fixtures which have four 40 watt bulbs each. I just position whatever I am shooting so that the light is fairly even, and the camera does a good job of adjusting for the lighting. Probably the most important part of any picture is a tripod. It doesn't have to be an expensive model, but vital to sharp pictures as most of my exposures are around 1/10 second which you simply cannot hand hold for.

[Badger]

I hate to admit it, but the camera is an old Canon A80, and the pictures are made under room light. When I remodeled my "toy room" I spent a couple of weeks looking at different lighting, and finally decided on two fluorescent fixtures which have four 40 watt bulbs each. I just position whatever I am shooting so that the light is fairly even, and the camera does a good job of adjusting for the lighting. Probably the most important part of any picture is a tripod. It doesn't have to be an expensive model, but vital to sharp pictures as most of my exposures are around 1/10 second which you simply cannot hand hold for.

Wow .. :move eek:

Great results ... goes to show that technique is more important than the equipment within reason ... thanks ... :thup:

Regards,
Badger

[cafdfw]

Johnny,

My gosh that Luger is awesome! :super:
Do you have any other lugers?
I hope to get one someday (As most people do, I'm sure!) -
I looked into buying one a few years ago when money was doing better, but at the prices they fetch I was afraid to buy one not know enough about them.

I use a very similar method as you do and take photos on my work bench in my garage. A tripod is a must. Mine was only $20 from a Target store.
I also use a two second delay so that my finger is away from the camera when it takes the photo. My camera is an older low end Sony, but it does pretty well using the tripod and extended shutter speed method.

I only wish I had a luger to show an example! :rolleyes:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a50/cafdfw/1-7.jpg

[kikokat]

Johnnie, great looking Luger, and very nice pics!

Harlan, what Sony are you using? I still use an older Sony Cyber Shot DSC-S85, and have good luck with it. Lighting seems to always be the issue.
Regards,
John

[cafdfw]

High John,

I took the above photo with my trusty old S-85. My sister gave me her old (to her) Sony DHC-H9 which is light years ahead of the S-85, especially with low lighting.

It has the same basic functions and layout of the S-85 but a ton of other functions I'm still trying to figure out.
The newer Sony also has a stabilized 15X optical magnification, etc, etc. - I'll get it all figured out in about five years. ;)

[villiers]

It´s so that when the sight is raised (for longer shots), the rear sight compensates for drift.

[Johnny Peppers]

It´s so that when the sight is raised (for longer shots), the rear sight compensates for drift.

Correct, it compensates for rotational drift. As the bullet starts to nose over the air pressure under the nose tries to keep the bullet up, and the bullet drifts in the direction of rotation.

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