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Just picked up an H&R Garand -- looking for information
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05-04-2010 10:40 PM
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To me it looks like a fairly typical arsenal rebuild, possibly/likely done at Springfield in December, 19-something. Maybe 65? Those last two digits are anyone's guess.
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Barrel looks like it spent time in the sand/bead blaster before getting reparked. Probably not arsenal work. Same may be true of op-rod. But in this day and age if it has all USGI wood and parts then that's a real plus. Might want to look into a trigger guard with less lug wear, to improve lockup.
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Thanks for the info! I *think* it has a USGI stock. Only markings are a P on the pistol grip and a very faint RA or WA stamped at a slant on the side below the back of the receiver.
Was my interpretation of the barrel date correct? Also, any idea what the huge P I stamped on the barrel to the right of the barrel numbers means? I have not been able to figure that out.
The seller told me he does not know the origin of this gun ... suspects it might have been a Dane or Korean. The stock has a messy number in white paint on the bottom of the pistol grip, if that helps at all.
Last edited by jbayless; 05-05-2010 at 06:30 PM.
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FWIW, I have seen several barrels on arsenal rebuilt rifles that exhibited the bead/sand-blasted look like yours does. To me, that can be considered normal.
Yes, it's a Feb, 1945 barrel made by SA.
The large Ps on the barrel are proof firing stamps. There are at least 2, maybe 3 on that barrel, indicating the barrel may have gone through 2 rebuilds. Again, normal.
That's an H on its side, not an I, and I don't know what it represents.
The stock looks GI, but VERY well used. The Danes stamped the rifle's s/n on the bottom of the stock, near the buttplate. The white numbers are likely rack numbers which are VERY common on US rifles.
I don't believe we gave any HRAs to Korea, but maybe we did.
I agree with togor, you need a new trigger guard. Find a stamped one with a bent hook as that would be original to the rifle--cheaper too. If you replace a part, might as well find one that at least looks original.
You have a great shooter, but the cost of restoring it would be totally prohibitive. Shoot it and enjoy it. Refinish the stock if you want, as that will only improve the value.
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You can recover the trigger guard you have by removing the lugs and turning them a quarter or completely over and reinstalling them. Any good Gunsmith that works with Garands can do this for you. Takes about fifteen minutes. Also new lugs from a stamped import can be used to recover a valuable original with worn out lugs.
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Looks recently re-parked. A parts gun? Think so. Very unlikely a 1945 barrel found have found its way on to a H&R at Springfield. Somebody did this one recently. This was bought off a table at a gunshow? Parts gun.
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It may well be a parts gun ... I bought it as a shooter for a pretty good price, so it serves well for that purpose.
I'll eventually be installing a Criterion barrel, new wood and NM sights, so I'm kind of glad it's not all that original. :-)
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If it was reparked recently the SA 12-65 would be parked not in the white.
I guess you could put that on yourself, but why, most would think of that a a detraction from value not an addition like a fake cartouche to some who doesn't know better.
just my humble opinion
Dave
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I have no problem believing a WWII barrel could have been used during a 1960's re-build. S.A. and other armories / depots used any servicable parts on hand and that would include WWII parts. The barrel was probably salvaged from an otherwise unservicable rifle and used for re-build.
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