View Full Version : Anyone know a source of suncorite?
01-09-2008, 07:07 PM
I know I can buy British Black in the USA which is supposedly the same stuff, but they don't ship it to Canada b/c it's aerosol and no dealers will mail it :(
Anyone know how else to get any?
12-29-2009, 08:00 PM
Same question here folks!!! I'm in the US, and am interested in some of this paint too. Or an acceptable substitute.
An accepted substitute is black barbecue paint. BDL has some available but will sell it ONLY if he does the application. It is VERY toxic and has to be applied under controlled conditions with protective clothing and gear in place.
12-29-2009, 11:08 PM
Have you fellows tried BDL Ltd ? He is a banner advertiser here. There was also some talk about a new commercial equivalent at the paint stores. Maybe someone here remembers the name of it. I'm willing to bet BDL can take care of your needs though.
12-29-2009, 11:31 PM
I have the paint on hand but I don't have it in large enough quantity to sell. I can offer the service too along with the prepaint Parkerizing but my paint booth is outdoors and it's too cold to paint at this time.
12-30-2009, 01:17 PM
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I've used the black and clear on bomb release units (Explosive release units)
12-30-2009, 01:40 PM
Thanks! I've sent BDL an email.
12-30-2009, 01:53 PM
Ive used Brownells arsonal baking laquer on small parts. Is the finish close to Suncorite?
12-30-2009, 06:48 PM
I have a 1 litre tin( standard tin not aerosol ) of Suncorite 259, from looking at the warnings on the tin , it is indeed a bit more toxic than the average BBQ aerosol, there is an address and phone number on the label, but my tin is 10 years old and may not be current. am not sure if i should publish details as they may not be happy with a thousand or so calls from Enfield collectors. If anyone has any Sunkorite , after standig a while it settles into a VERY thick sludge at the bottom , stir well and carefully it also needs thinning to use in a spraygun.
12-30-2009, 08:52 PM
1949 FAZ with South African ownership markings, paint came off with Kroil and pictured below q-tip dipped in rubbing alcohol.
Its my understanding the South Africans were buying their paint straight from the Ishapore Rifle Factory. :rolleyes:
Moral of story, if you’re a cheap bastard BBQ black is an acceptable substitute until it warms up in South Carolina. :D
01-04-2010, 10:21 PM
I had inquired with my wife awhile ago about procuring Suncorite. Her background is in domestic and international shipment and storage of chemicals for a large American manufacturer. She presented me with the MSDS for Suncorite 259 which was Greek to me but gave me the short answer: NO, nada, no way, never, forget about it. Several of the chemical binders in the material have recently been banned here in the U.S. due to their carcinogenic properties.
01-05-2010, 07:06 PM
I used a semi flat/gloss hi temp (engine/header) paint and baked it and IMHO it looks pretty darn good
01-06-2010, 03:44 PM
From my experience, you are better off heating the parts in the oven before spraying on the BBQ paint. Around 200 F works, causes the paint to dry on contact and prevents runs. Too hot makes the coat not adhere well so be aware. I suspect each brand of paint will react somewhat differently so experiment. A second baking of 30 min at 200 will help the paint become harder I think (at least from my experience). I refinished an Enfield pistol I bought which had had the finish removed with chemicals (not a single blemish to the stampings) and the job looks quite good when shown along side several other Enfield pistols I own, except for looking much too good. I have been using a web holster to replace the worn look (wear on the high spots).
You must be sure that the gun metal is as clean as you can get it. Use brake cleaner as the last cleaning, and touch only with clean surgical gloves. If you follow the preheating advice you will have to come up with wire hangers to hold the parts so touching is not a problem.
For the semigloss look, just rub with a hard car wax (carnuba) while still warm. The wax penetrates the paint and gives it a nice but not too bright sheen. Allow to cool before buffing out.
Automotive header paint sounds like a good idea also, but most of that contains minerals to withstand the intense heat and I wonder how the paint looks in the end.
01-06-2010, 04:07 PM
Henkel produce suncorite IIRC. Brian Dick has some but only for work sent to him :)
01-06-2010, 07:44 PM
There's an auto restoration supply company called The Eastwood Company, that carries a wide variety of specialty paints for restoring old cars. Frame and chassis paints, engine paints, header paints, underhood parts paints, etc. Wonder if they might have something.....is this a flat paint, semi-gloss, or gloss? I can't tell from my Enfield, it's pretty worn. Kinda looks like a basic "chassis black" semi-gloss.
And has anybody tried powdercoating one?
01-07-2010, 03:44 AM
I have, but dont know how to send it to you for the reason of an extremly dangerous liquid wich makes me eventually to an german top terrorist !:madsmile:
01-07-2010, 04:23 AM
If it´s carcinogenic ... it MUST be GOOD!
01-07-2010, 06:15 AM
It is GOOD! And it looks good! To the rest....:runaway:
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