577 Snider brass

[Stan Rideout]

Hi,
I purchased 50 brass cases from Buffalo Arms for my Snider Enfield rifle and unlike the loaded rounds I got with the rifle, these cases have a bottle neck. They are marked 577 SNIDER JAMISON.I presume they have to be resized before they are loaded, is that correct. Thanks. Stan.

[Stevo]

How much of a bottleneck does it have? Is it considerably longer than a regular .577 Snider case?

[Stan Rideout]

How much of a bottleneck does it have? Is it considerably longer than a regular .577 Snider case?

The bottleneck is as follows,
OD .593
ID .552
Neck length .643 to shoulder
case length 1.988- same as loaded round.

[Stan Rideout]

Steve
I can't seem to get the picture to upload. Do you have a spot on CGN where I can send it.
Thanks.
Stan.

[Stevo]

Stan,
If you right click on the pic on your computer, you should see "resize" in the pop up menu. Resize the pic to small or medium, then upload to milsurps.com.

Or email to stevo@milsurps.com and I'll post it for you.

[Pblatzz]

Hi,
I purchased 50 brass cases from Buffalo Arms for my Snider Enfield rifle and unlike the loaded rounds I got with the rifle, these cases have a bottle neck. They are marked 577 SNIDER JAMISON.I presume they have to be resized before they are loaded, is that correct. Thanks. Stan.

I bought Jamison brass from Buffalo Arms before and reload for the snider all the time. The brass is suppose to have an shoulder. Resize the brass, it won't hurt and you can make sure they are all the same, flare the opening just enough to get the bullet in. I found the Jamison brass to be very good and consistent, The only issue I ever had (minor) was the necks can have (its new brass so it's not perfectly round) some dents.

Pete

[copilot001]

Hi,
I purchased 50 brass cases from Buffalo Arms for my Snider Enfield rifle and unlike the loaded rounds I got with the rifle, these cases have a bottle neck. They are marked 577 SNIDER JAMISON.I presume they have to be resized before they are loaded, is that correct. Thanks. Stan.
If you only shoot the one snider you shouldn,t have to resize your brass everytime you reload.
that new brass is made to fit every snider out there,once you fire it it,s fire formed to your chamber and if you look at your brass you will see there,s no shoulder...It,s blown out...The only reason for that shoulder is so that you can use a .575 or .577 cast bullet. you should actually be using a .590 or if the bore is really worn .600 (slug the barrel to find out which you need)
I usually fire my brass 5 or 6 times before it starts getting snug in my chamber, then i anneal and resize.
Having 6 sniders I keep about 150 loaded rounds for each one didicated to that rifle....tried shooting them all off one day...concussion headache for a week.:yikes:..but i had fun :super:
If you live in the G.T.A. I could give you a hands on tutorial, send me a PM.
By the way....May 3, at the Orillia gun club behind Epps on hwy.11 at 9am a few snider nuts are having a get-together...bring your martinis and sniders.

[Stan Rideout]

Hi,
I just have the one Snider and I had it on the range a few days ago. It shoots well, but I was surprised by the recoil. I didn't expect an old black powder rifle to kick lick that. I soon got used to it and had a lot of fun fine tuning it. Even at the lowest sight setting it continued to shoot high and to the left at 50 yds. but all shots were on the target. Thanks for your helpful info. I will have to look for a set of dies, they seem to be a bit expensive from Lee, but I will keep looking.

[copilot001]

Sad to say Stan but the Lee dies are about the cheapest around, unless you pick up a used set somewhere.
Try loading 65 to 75g of 2f....It,l be easier on the shoulder.
POI is about right for the snider with a 85g load, off to one side or another is usually a matter of not holding the rifle verticle,most likely you,r leaning over trying to get a sight picture.....that stock is kind of funny
You,l get the hang of it.

[Stan Rideout]

Thanks again for the helpful info. By the way I live in Orleans.
Stan.

[copilot001]

Thanks again for the helpful info. By the way I live in Orleans.
Stan.

He ..He...be a bit of a drive to get up to Canada:rofl:
WE are the land of the snider,:bow: Think we kept them in service till about 1900...or was it 1919 for civil guard.
For what it,s worth Stan 24 guage CBC brass available at cabelas is easly formed into snider brass, just cut to length, anneal and use the resizing die.
About $20 for a box of 25.Uses large pistol primers. also check out British Militaria web site, all sorts of snider and martini info there.

[Stevo]

Orleans is near Ottawa, is it not?

[copilot001]

Orleans is near Ottawa, is it not?

There is an Orleans near Ottawa???:slap: :madsmile: :dunno: :banghead:
Sorry bout that :madsmile:


I was thinking of the Orleans with the great flood.

[K31]

I back my sizing die out a few turns, and that sizes the brass just enough to work in both of my Snider's. My cases have been reloaded dozens of times, and I have not taken any of them out of service yet. The Rapine trash can bullet is very accurate in every Snider we've tried it in. The hollow base allows it to fit many rifles. The Lee Miné was very disappointing. I have found better accuracy with FG than with FFG. 72gr works great, and doubles as a flame thrower in my carbine! The FG also gives a gentler push on recoil.

[gerry303ca]

Good luck with the Jamison brass. I bought some in .303 Savage and most split lenghtwise in the center of the case. It was just a light load with cast bullets.

[Stan Rideout]

Hi folks, yes there is an Orleans that was once a town east of Ottawa but now it is a 'berb of Ottawa. I had nothing to do with that change as it came about when I was overseas with the RCAF. Anyway, thanks for all your input on the Snider brass it is very helpful. By the way Copilot001, anyone around there have a set of 577 dies for sale.
Thanks again and good shooting.

[FHG1781]

Hi all,

I'm from north of Kingston, Ontario and am in the beginning stages of making some rounds for my Snider MkII 1862. I'm thinking of getting some brass and doing my own, however, to save some cash and energy, I have seen some on Youtube and other posts use 24 gauge plastic and load in .590 or .600 musket with 70-85 gr FFG. In terms of accuracy around 50 yards +/-, do you think this would make much of a difference?

Thanks,

[Patrick Chadwick]

Yes, it will work. Some people have reported quite satisfactory results (go to britishmilitariaforums.yuku.com and look around). Whether or not you consider the results to be satisfactory depends on the kind of accuracy you are looking for.

:wave:
Patrick