sniper box ???

[NORTH-SHORE (CANADA)]

Hi :wave:

just starting on this forum i am ww2 collector and yesterday someone have give me this box for my collection

I saw a box like this on your web site and would like to have more information on it :sos:
http://www.milsurps.com/images/imported/deleted.gif (http://www.casimages.com)
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thx

Eric

[Badger]

Welcome to the site... :thup:

You have a British built No.15 transit chest for the Enfield No.4(T) sniper rifles. They were also built here in Canada for the Long Branch No.4(T) sniper rifle, but there are subtle differences. You can tell easily which is which by checking out various components as shown in the Milsurp Knowledge Library entry below.

Check under the Canada - Milsurp Knowledge Library (click here) (http://www.milsurps.com/forumdisplay.php?f=10)

Read the Collector's Comments and Feedback" section (Note #4) and view the 160 pic photo montage of our MKL entry of a 1945 Enfield No.4 Mk1*(T) Long Branch Sniper Rifle (click here) ( http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=7).


"REAR VIEW" - Canadian built "CHEST.S.A.No.15.MK.1" transit case for No.4(T) Long Branch sniper rifle.

Differs from standard British No.15 transit chest. The Canadian version uses stitched leather carry handles versus double folded ones, plus it has hinge sets with 4 screws instead of 3. (refer to picture virtual tour above for more detail)


http://photos.imageevent.com/badgerdog/canadianservicerifles/1945no4mk1tlongbranch90l8161/icons/DSC01141%20_Medium_.JPG(Click PIC to Enlarge)http://photos.imageevent.com/badgerdog/canadianservicerifles/1945no4mk1tlongbranch90l8161/icons/DSC01137%20_Medium_.JPG




"REAR VIEW" - Typical British built "CHEST.S.A.No.15.MK.1" transit case for No.4(T) sniper rifle.

Note the double folded leather carry handles, plus it has hinge sets with 3 screws instead of 4 in the Canadian version for the Long Branch sniper rifle. (refer to picture virtual tour above for more detail)

http://photos.imageevent.com/badgerdog/canadianservicerifles/1945no4mk1tlongbranch90l8161/icons/DSC01159%20_Medium_.JPG(Click PIC to Enlarge)http://photos.imageevent.com/badgerdog/canadianservicerifles/1945no4mk1tlongbranch90l8161/icons/DSC01162%20_Medium_.JPG



Hope this helps.... :)

Regards,
Badger

[NORTH-SHORE (CANADA)]

Hi,

Thanks for the help :thup:
How many box were made and is it rare :dunno: what is the value of this box IT DON'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE got it for free :dancingbanana:

[Badger]

They're not that rare, but if you can find someone who has a British Enfield No.4 Mk1(T) Sniper Rifle (click here) (http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=89), however, they are missing the transit chest to complete the set for collector purposes, you might be able to get $50+ for it. If they're desparate, perhaps more, but in my opinion, they aren't worth that much just as a stand alone item. :lol:

The bigger problem with these is that the shipping would prpbably cost more than the chest is worth.

If you want to sell it, perhaps take it to a local gun show. I usually see them on tables here in Ontario, as well as C. No.7 (.22 caliber) transit chests ranging from $25 to $75.

You other choice would be to post a "Make an Offer" advertisement here in the Quartermaster Stores (click here) (http://www.milsurps.com/vbclassified.php), making sure you specify you prefer a local pickup as opposed to shipping it.

Regards,
Badger

[NORTH-SHORE (CANADA)]

Hi :wave:

Nan is whas only for my information wil make a good display box and she look nice :D

wen i saw the paper inside tha said spiper i when :runaway:

The yellow spot on the box is it gaz indicator ??

[J. Savoie]

Salut North-Shore ! Content de te voir ici aussi. ;)

Jocelyn Savoie
Québec

[NORTH-SHORE (CANADA)]

Hi Jocelyn Savoie :wave:

Any idear for the yellow spot on the box is it gaz indicator :sos:

[Warren]

The yellow spot was put there by ACME surplus when they bought the rifles in the 60's ...All the rifles sold by ACME had this and it was done by wholesaler to prevent swapping rifles before shipment....
If you want to sell the box, please drop me a line. If you are on the "North Shore" we are not far apart...
Cheers,
Warren

[NORTH-SHORE (CANADA)]

Hi,

Here the box all clean :super:
http://www.milsurps.com/images/imported/deleted.gif (http://www.casimages.com)

[Warren]

Look familiar ?? You will probably find the remains of an ACME label somewhere on the box.http://www.milsurps.com/images/imported/2008/05/P1050881-1.jpg

[stencollector]

They're not that rare, but if you can find someone who has a British Enfield No.4 Mk1(T) Sniper Rifle (click here) (http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=89), however, they are missing the transit chest to complete the set for collector purposes, you might be able to get $50+ for it. If they're desparate, perhaps more, but in my opinion, they aren't worth that much just as a stand alone item. :lol:

The bigger problem with these is that the shipping would prpbably cost more than the chest is worth.

If you want to sell it, perhaps take it to a local gun show. I usually see them on tables here in Ontario, as well as C. No.7 (.22 caliber) transit chests ranging from $25 to $75.

You other choice would be to post a "Make an Offer" advertisement here in the Quartermaster Stores (click here) (http://www.milsurps.com/vbclassified.php), making sure you specify you prefer a local pickup as opposed to shipping it.

Regards,
Badger

I think I would have to disagree with your evaluation. I have not seen a snipers chest go for $50 for quite some time. These days, one would almost be hard pressed to even find the Cno7 chests for that price.

I would expect a chest as nice as this one, still in it's original coat of paint, to see somewhere between $300 and $550. There are a lot more rifles around than chests, and many guys want to get the complete outfit together.

Personally, I find the array of chests (Enfield, sniper, sten, bren, mag chests, etc...)in my collection to consume the greater part of the gunroom. They may all soon be relegated out to one of the storage sheds outside.

[Badger]

I would expect a chest as nice as this one, still in it's original coat of paint, to see somewhere between $300 and $550. There are a lot more rifles around than chests, and many guys want to get the complete outfit together.

Wow ... :eek:

I just picked up a beautiful C No. 7 chest at the last Toronto Militaria Show for $75 and it was in great condition. :super:

I had no idea these old crates had gone up so much, or I would not have passed on the two British No.15 sniper chests he also had on his table for $50 each... :lol:

I sure hope he brings them back to the next show as I'll be lined up at the door first in line to grab them. :madsmile:

Thanks for the wake up call partner .. :thup:

Regards,
Badger

[J. Savoie]

NORTH-SHORE don't tell the buddy who gave you that chest how much it is worth or he migth have a heart attack! :yikes:


J. Savoie ;)

[stencollector]

The Cno7 chests are not worth anywhere near as much as the no15 chests. But where they were $10 or $20 for the Cno7 chests, they rarely show up for less than $50 these days, if they are complete and in decent shape. I had a small stack of them which I would drag to the various gunshows one at a time, and put on my table for $30 or $40. I have never had to bring one home yet. Often as not they go from my table over to another dealers table for a bit more money. And if all else fails, they end up on ebay with the word "sniper" thrown into the title somewhere, and tend to go for $100-250.

The no15 chests are another story. I rarely see these on the loose, and they are desirable enough that guys will take apart Cno7 chests and rework them into no15 chests. Again I will use ebay as a reference, and on there minimum $300 for a no15 chest, and the highest price I have seen was around $800 (along with a whole lot of postage to go overseas) for one of the Cno7 converted to no15 chests a year or so ago.

These price estimates are, as with all milsurp value estimates, only valid for yesterday. The price tomorrow will likely be higher. We will dream of the days when we could have picked up no15 chests for only $300 or so.

[NORTH-SHORE (CANADA)]

Hi :wave:


:yikes: WoW i never think that worth that much :dancingbanana:

[J. Savoie]

NORTH-SHORE you see? I told you on the other forum that these guys here know their stuff! :super:


J. Savoie

[NORTH-SHORE (CANADA)]

Hi :wave:

Any one know from with date the box was in service :dunno: and how many were made :madsmile:

[stencollector]

The boxes were in service from approx 41/42 until the rifles were withdrawn from service in the 80s and early 90s. There were approx 30,000 sniper rifles made, so I would wager there would have been 30,000 of these boxes or so. But don't let the 30,000 number make you think the box is common. Many of the rifles got separated from their chests over the years. The desire for most Enfield no4T owners is to have the accessories along with the basic scoped rifle.

[Lance]

I agree with stencollector. As an Enfield collector with a side specialty of No.4 T's I have purchased many "T's" without a chest just because the rifle and scope matched and I needed it for my collection. Then the hunt starts for a chest so consider yourself lucky you found one.

The last one I found cost me $300 plus shipping and it is far from mint. It is a converted Bren chest so it is an early girl and from the remains of a tag inside was in Greece for some time.

[NORTH-SHORE (CANADA)]

Hi :wave:

I look on my box and on the paper i think is the date on the bottom right 2/46 and on the right bottom of the box mark in the box 1946 .

[NORTH-SHORE (CANADA)]

Hi :wave:

I may consideried selling my box :rolleyes: So any one that will give me a good price is welcome :ugh:
Or any good German stuf from WW2 is welcome
Thx

Eric

[Lance]

PM sent, please let me know hopefully you can make a rifle very happy

[NORTH-SHORE (CANADA)]

Hi :wave:

MP answer still available :cool:

[NORTH-SHORE (CANADA)]

Hi :wave:

The box is for sale on ebay good luck

Original No.15 chest box for the Enfield No.4(T) sniper - eBay (item 190240124777 end time Aug-03-08 08:09:48 PDT) (http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-No-15-chest-box-for-the-Enfield-No-4-T-sniper_W0QQitemZ190240124777QQcmdZViewItem?hash=it em190240124777&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318)

Eric

[stencollector]

I think I would have to disagree with your evaluation. I have not seen a snipers chest go for $50 for quite some time. These days, one would almost be hard pressed to even find the Cno7 chests for that price.

I would expect a chest as nice as this one, still in it's original coat of paint, to see somewhere between $300 and $550. There are a lot more rifles around than chests, and many guys want to get the complete outfit together.

Personally, I find the array of chests (Enfield, sniper, sten, bren, mag chests, etc...)in my collection to consume the greater part of the gunroom. They may all soon be relegated out to one of the storage sheds outside.


These price estimates are, as with all milsurp value estimates, only valid for yesterday. The price tomorrow will likely be higher. We will dream of the days when we could have picked up no15 chests for only $300 or so.


As per my last statement, the box is now at US $849.00 (approximately C $870.31) with 24 hours to go. It will be interesting to see what the modern day e-bay snipers do to this price in the last seconds. So it would appear the days of the $300 boxes are now just memories.

[NORTH-SHORE (CANADA)]

Hi :wave:

The box whas sold for 966$ us :dancingbanana: to a guy in New Zeland now whaiting for the payment :super: and for the shipping 250$ us :yikes:

[stencollector]

A new record. Congratulations. 8 years ago this price would have got you the chest complete with the rifle, scope, sling and can.

[Cantom]

Hi :wave:

I may consideried selling my box :rolleyes: So any one that will give me a good price is welcome :ugh:
Or any good German stuf from WW2 is welcome
Thx

Eric

Congrats, that's a pretty good price you got! :yikes:

[limpetmine]

Yes, a good price. The seller was kind enough to send me additonal pictures, (thank you!), and I fully intended to bid. HOWEVER, my max bid was blown away by moneybags there. LOL!. I hope the buyer has the matching rifle for that case, and can find the scope tin, too! My quest continues......
limpetmine

[No4Mk1(T)]

$966 WOW!! I wonder what my '46 Long Branch No.15 marked chest is worth now?

[Cantom]

$966 WOW!! I wonder what my '46 Long Branch No.15 marked chest is worth now?

I don't know but I can tell you that I'd sure love to have it...:lol: