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    Counterfeit enfield really?

    I enjoy my Enfields. I just purchased a “jovino Co. NY” Lithgow .22 trainer. I have purchased a second one. Let me tell you these are great shooters. Even my wife, who is not a gun person, has used it and she shoots 10X with it at 50 feet.
    They are high quality, but there seems to be a bias against these. I was wondering what the real reasons that people do not like the JJCO NY builds?
    I want to get enough to start a youth shooter group at the club and think these 22LR Enfields would be ideal for this purpose using subsonic (at first). They do not have milsurp value except that they both have all Australianicon parts which people would willing to buy to “restore” their Enfield. It seems one sided. I do not need to post pictures because these are virtual perfect rifles.
    Additionally, I am interested in the number of JJCO rifles made. Mine are T-1466 and T-1538.
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    the bias is that they were assembeled from parts and as you noted are not collector pieces , there is nothing at all wrong with them as shooters as you stated they are excellent condition , for your stated purpose they are perfect , i wish you good luck and much success ,

    as to how many and any referance to #s , im certain someone here is much more capable than i in helping with that ,

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    +1 on A square's comments above.

    It depends on what you a looking for as to the feelings toward these rifles. To a collector, no value, to a shooter or just an enthusiast, they offer good value.
    The problems they have (or rather can have) are to do with the full calibre rifles. A lot were actually genuine complete Lithgowicon rifles in good condition. But the ones Jovinos assembled from parts used foreends from production in 1942 when the copper recoil plates were omitted for a period as a manufacturing expedient. Because of this they were prone to damage at the draws possibly leading to eventual breaking of the wood at the rear. Even though they were not considered collectable, they were not considered a good proposition as a shooter either unless the owner could rectify the draws
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    Until they became more widely known about, buyers thought they were getting Lithgow rifles in exc. cond. A lot of the bad blood came from that as well.

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