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Claven2
02-27-2009, 08:12 PM
The most commonly encountered Lee-Enfield bayonets:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d85/Claven2/Enfield%20stuff/DSCN0218.jpg

From left to right:
1) P1888 Bayonet, issued with Long Lee Enfields and Long Lee Metfords.
2) P1903 Bayonet, issued with the SMLE MkI, and as a substitute standard with the MkIII
3) P1907 Bayonet, issued with the SMLE MkIII, MkIII*, Con'd IV, and MkI**IP. Early examples are sometimes found with a hooked quilion (expensive and rare)
4) P1907MkII*, issued in WW2, eastern theatre, with Indian forces. Also found with a rounded pommel like that on the P1907 bayonet (the MkII no *, both fullered and unfullered). Most were destroyed or stamped "DP" after the war.
5) The typical No.4MkII bayonet, issued with the No.4MkI and MkI*. Also encounteres is the identical looking MkII*, differing only in method of attachment of the rod/blade.
6) WW2 No.4MkIII bayonet, intended to be issued as a substitute standard with the No.4MkI and MkI*, though most were never issued.
7) No.9 bayonet, issued with the No.4Mk2.

Standard issue bayonet missing from the photo include the No.5Mk1 jungle carbine bayonet, the hooked quillion version of the P1907, the cruciform No.4Mk1 bayonet and the No.7Mk1 bayonet. Sorry for not including them, but I didn't have examples on hand for the photo ;)

A square 10
03-06-2009, 07:54 PM
excelent assortment and some very fine examples , wish my photos were as good as yours , but ill add them for the hooked quillon , no4 mkI cruciform , no5 and no7 swiveling socket ,

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r188/Asquare10/MIKESBAYONETS005.jpg

ausie 42 top , late P07 with clearing hole , early P07 without clearing hole and earlier P07 hookie -bottom

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r188/Asquare10/MIKESBAYONETS007.jpg

no7 swivel socket -left , no5 w/wood scales -center , no4 mkI cruciform - right

No4Mk1(T)
03-06-2009, 08:57 PM
Hey I have a few of them too!

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d9/No4Mk1/LEbayonets.jpg

I love the Enfield bayonet game. A modest collection I know but a lot of fun to have.
I’m sorry I don’t have all the dates handy. I’ll have to pull the collection and add them later

old-smithy
03-06-2009, 11:29 PM
Lets see if i can add a few
1902 trials (long version) became the 1903 with short blade (shown for comparison) - so include Afghan long 88's?

http://www.old-smithy.info/bayonets/fullsize/UK%20full/UK%201902%20trials%20comaprison.jpg

VTC

http://www.old-smithy.info/bayonets/fullsize/UK%20full/UK%20VTC%20general.jpg

No6
http://www.old-smithy.info/bayonets/fullsize/israeli/ISRAEL_No6.jpg

red hilt No7 - the earlier version

http://www.old-smithy.info/bayonets/fullsize/UK%20full/UK%20No%207.jpg

No8

http://www.old-smithy.info/bayonets/fullsize/UK%20full/UK%20no%208.jpg

No5 Ist Pattern

http://www.old-smithy.info/bayonets/fullsize/UK%20full/UK No5 MkI.jpg

You can add 4 major Indian models with 3 variations of each, The australain trials for their Jungle Carbine version with 3 blade lengths, and this little beauty whcih fits the No4

http://www.old-smithy.info/bayonets/fullsize/UK%20full/uk repro design for no4 2.jpg

then there is Italian made for Enfield

http://www.old-smithy.info/bayonets/fullsize/italy/Italy%20Carcano%20Enfield%20full.jpg

Austrian for Enfield

http://www.old-smithy.info/bayonets/fullsize/austria/austria%2084-98%20for%20SMLE.jpg

got a few more but they are even less common

bowkillpa
03-08-2009, 05:13 PM
I have only (1) Enfield Bayonet:

No.4 Mk II Step Shank Bayonet

Per British .303 Rifle Bayonets (http://enfieldking.tripod.com/enfieldking/id14.html)

This variation of spike bayonet is usually the most commonly encountered of the No 4 bayonets. Its spike consists of a sharpened rod, with the milled fluted having been omited to simplify production. This model was approved in 1941 and made by Singer and several other subcontractors in the UK and by Savage and Long Branch in North America. There are also two variants of the Mk II bayonet one has a smooth shank and the other is stepped.

I have the stepped which is black (picture is grey) and cosmo still inside.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/blackjeep04/Guns%20Archery%20Knives/Enfield%20Bayonet/DSC00969.jpg

A square 10
03-12-2009, 02:48 PM
excelent , theres a few showing up i seldom get to see ,

gew8805
03-25-2009, 11:50 AM
I have only (1) Enfield Bayonet:

No.4 Mk II Step Shank Bayonet

Per British .303 Rifle Bayonets (http://enfieldking.tripod.com/enfieldking/id14.html)

This variation of spike bayonet is usually the most commonly encountered of the No 4 bayonets. Its spike consists of a sharpened rod, with the milled fluted having been omited to simplify production. This model was approved in 1941 and made by Singer and several other subcontractors in the UK and by Savage and Long Branch in North America. There are also two variants of the Mk II bayonet one has a smooth shank and the other is stepped.

I have the stepped which is black (picture is grey) and cosmo still inside.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/blackjeep04/Guns%20Archery%20Knives/Enfield%20Bayonet/DSC00969.jpg



bowkillpa, you a very nice example of the No.4, MkII* bayonet. This was made by contractors only. Singer (after making the fluted MkI), Savage and Longbranch all made the No.4 MkII that had the blade forged as a solid piece with the socket, the difference is very obvious when you see it.

bowkillpa
08-01-2009, 10:38 PM
bowkillpa, you a very nice example of the No.4, MkII* bayonet. This was made by contractors only. Singer (after making the fluted MkI), Savage and Longbranch all made the No.4 MkII that had the blade forged as a solid piece with the socket, the difference is very obvious when you see it.


Thanks,

I now have it on my No4 MK1:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/blackjeep04/Guns%20Archery%20Knives/Enfield%20No4%20Mk1%20303/DSC00993.jpg