DCM Pros and Cons

[ARCHER 9505]

To ask a completely subjective question. Who makes the best, most accurate, most reliable out of the box AR-15 for Service Rifle competition?

[relics6165]

Archer:

The best, out of the box, match grade Service Rifle, IMHO, is a Rock River, with a Rock River NM trigger. However, that's not the best of what's easily (at least, used to be easy) obtainable in match grade ARs.

My thoughts are a RR NM lower, with a White Oak (either WOP if you're good, or WOA if your startin') upper.

This opinion is worth exactly what you paid for it......

Surely there will be others.....

HTH

[Fick_2141]

If you ask me they are all the same. I like Busmaster because of their involvement with the CMP, and participation in the CMP games events.
Any new DCM service rifle from Bushy, RRA, or Armalite will shoot master scores. I have never heared a bad word about WOA, or CLE uppers.
Both operations have great people that know what they are doing when it comes to service rifle competition.

[Scott in Michigan]

With the exception of triggers, Fick 2141 is probably right until you can shoot well enough to appreciate one put together by the top 'smiths.

[OldDoggy]

I use a BushMaster lower that I put a Rock River trigger in . I put a DPMS , DCM upper on it and it shoots better than I do. One day I may buy a Rock River at Camp Perry , they are about the most rifle for the price IMHO. Just Another Old Doggy ,Don

[Quadguy]

I agree with Relics. Out of the box RR is probably the way to go. My DCM Buchmaster shoots great , but , the trigger is somewhat sloopy. When it goes bad a RR trigger will go into it.

[PatMcD]

Archer 9505, I saw that you live in Bowdoin. I live right next door in Bowdoinham. I've got the White Oak Armament upper that others have talked about and can attest that that thing will put the bullet exactly where the front sight is every time. Fully capable of High-Master scores all the way accross the course.
I recently traded a match upper for a Bushmaster DCM upper to use as a spare to rotate new barrels. It has less than 500rds on it and am told it shoots very well. If you do not currently have a rifle and want to shoot Highpower this year, let me know. I have spares of most of all the gear you would need.
Pat

[ARCHER 9505]

Pat
I'll try to contact you via the PM feature. I'm still getting the hang of this new forum so we will see if I am successful.
Archer

[lyman1903]

lots of good info in this thread,

here's my 2 cents,

got a good friend that bought a new RRA at Perry a couple of years ago,
shoots great, no issues, (he's a 'high' expert)

I use a Mutt rifle for short range, with a RRA trigger (eagle lower, usgi top, old 1x9HB, floated etc)

I have a RRA lower, jewel, and CLE krieger upper for across the course,

both work fantastic

the club I belong to has 2 bushmaster CMP's as loaners, and several members have them also,
nice guns, shoot well, but as the members got better, they changed the trigger out,,

also have a friend that has a RRA lower, Giessele (sp) trigger, and a WOP match upper,
that combo is outstanding,


moral to the story,

they are all good companies, making good or better products , it's up to what you are comfortable with,

shoot and enjoy!

[Homer03]

As you asked about best "out of the box" there is one simple answer-Rock River Arms. Because they have the trigger and all else is about equal.

[Hunter]

I shot my M1A for years, then succumbed to the Dark Side. First time I ever fired my new Bushmaster DCM rifle, right out of the box, was at a Highpower match. I shot my best rapid fire scores ever. I shot well over 2000 rounds through that Bushmaster with the stock 2 stage trigger and never had a problem. Having read all the reports of failure (I've never heard a first-hand report....) I always wondered when it was going to crater, so I sold it on ARFCOM for 50 bucks and put in the RRA.
These days, seems that DCM rifles aren't popular, though ANYTHING AR related is at a premium. There's great advice above my post, but if you're just starting out, don't be afraid of scoring a good used DCM upper to mate to anybody's lower with a RRA 2 stage trigger in it. It'll shoot (damned near) as good as anything out there for a whole lot less $$. Point is: Get out there and shoot! H.

[PatMcD]

A guy down in Mass has a used (300 rds) Compass Lake/Bushmaster upper for sale for $800, shipped. Sounds a tad high.
WTS: DPMS complete lower & Compass Lake/Bushmaster DCM upper - Northeastshooters.com (http://northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=59470)

[jem102]

All the comments you have received are dead on. The RRA does have a "tighter fit" to the upper than most so a "little" less wobble.

John

[Jorjohn11]

I have a RRA NM2 and the upper/lower fit isn't that great. It has slop. I'm new to the high power game and I've only shot about 6 matches with the RRA. Here's a pic of my rapid sitting target from my last match.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc271/jorjohn11/001.jpg

[Hunter]

I have a RRA NM2 and the upper/lower fit isn't that great. It has slop. I'm new to the high power game and I've only shot about 6 matches with the RRA. Here's a pic of my rapid sitting target from my last match.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc271/jorjohn11/001.jpg

THAT'S damned good shootin'. Man, I HATE 99's!! On the other hand..... 99 is a killer score. Way to go. My RRA shoots like that too if I'll let it ;)

[AKA Hugh Uno]

I bought mine a long time ago (not from CMP) and have been very happy with it. The trigger quite excellent on mine and I have the so-called "National Match" Rock RIver trigger on my 3-gun M4 Rock RIver gun.

While the Rock RIver National Match trigger is MUCH better than what came stock on the gun (which was bad), and was EASY to install, it is definitely not any better than the trigger that came stock on my Bushy match gun.