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painter777
03-12-2009, 01:13 AM
I just had a Winchester stock come in that has the factory cut for the M2 set up. It doesn't have the pot belly like the Type V would.
I'll get a picture up in a day or so....but the M2 cut clearly looks to be a factory job...not a conversion of a type III.
Thing is, it has the short barrel channel and according to Riesch it should have the long barrel channel of 4.15".
Any record of early type IV stocks without the longer channel?
Picture ASAP.
TIA
Charlie-painter777
Bruce McAskill
03-12-2009, 10:48 AM
Charlie, By the time they started making the M2 they were already well into the type 4 stock. A type 3 most likely was done at one of the rebuild facilities. Winchester started with the type 4 in the Feb/March 1944 time frame.
painter777
03-12-2009, 12:50 PM
So,
Some type 4 stocks did come with the short channel?
Charlie-painter777
Charlie, itwas probably caught in the transition if it appears to be factory cut my WAG
Newscotlander
03-12-2009, 02:48 PM
Probably not an original M2 stock. Carbine Club newsletter 333-8, "....if an M2 stock does not have the long barrel channel, a collector may regard it as being a conversion, not an original M2 stock".
painter777
03-12-2009, 06:35 PM
Got the son's help and took a few pictures.
What do you think.....Converted type III or short channel type IV?
I appreciate everyones help.
Harlan,
I promise to take before pics of all. Before I strip and refinish.
Charlie-painter777
Top Views,
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e227/Painter8439/DSC02797.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e227/Painter8439/DSC02802.jpg
Left Side Cut out,
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e227/Painter8439/DSC02794.jpg
Right Side Cut out,
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e227/Painter8439/DSC02815.jpg
Full Right Side,
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e227/Painter8439/DSC02806.jpg
Full Left Side,
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e227/Painter8439/DSC02816.jpg
Found a CC under that old Rack Paint !
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e227/Painter8439/DSC02805.jpg
Newscotlander
03-12-2009, 06:49 PM
Does it have the extra recoil plate support?
painter777
03-12-2009, 07:55 PM
Chris,
I'm hoping I have the correct pictures for you.
Only thing I can see different can be seen in this first picture on the right side. My other Hi and Lo wood stocks don't show this curved cut.
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e227/Painter8439/DSC02842.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e227/Painter8439/DSC02843.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e227/Painter8439/DSC02835.jpg
I haven't stripped the bottom of the pistol grip yet. Other than what might be under the paint on the grip bottom, they are no Re-build stamps or stamped P proof marks.
Charlie-painter777
jimb16
03-12-2009, 09:34 PM
The right side appears to exhibit some evidence of the stock originally having the bridge of wood that normally is present in the M1 stock. That would tend to indicate a later conversion.
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