Latest 91/30 Hex receiver?

[sdh1911]

I've read in Lapins book on Mosin Nagants, the type one receiver was replaced by the type two round style in 1930. I realize they would run out what was on hand before going to the new style. I've bought two rifles that I figure were good examples of this transition, both Tula, un-molested, very good over all condition, the Hex is dated 1933 as is the round receiver. I'd like to know how far these two types can be found, i.e. how late is your hex or how early is your round and who made them. I also have both examples of the Issy but the dates their are mid production examples. Maybe someday I chase them down as well, many thanks-SDH:beerchug:

[Claven2]

SDH: Conversion from hex to round was 1936, not 1930. You SURE you have a 1933 Tula ROUND receiver?

[sdh1911]

I stand corrected, it took a 4X loop to find the rest of the "8" but yes indeed it is an "8" and not a 3 as I thought when I bought it. In Lapins book on Pg. 51 he states they changed the receivers in 1930 and on pg. 53 he notes you can still find receivers being used as late as 1936. I have never seen one this late, but admit I've only been looking a couple of years. I deeply apologize for my mistake, but. hope it does not take away from the original question, what is the latest date hex receiver or the earliest dated round receiver. B.R.-SDH,

[Brewster]

I have a 1943 Tula with Hex receiver...

[Claven2]

After 1936, if you encounter a hex receiver on a Russian issued piece, it is almost certainly an earlier receiver robbed off a battle-damaged rifle and re-used in rifle construction. For example, I have a 1944 Tula M44 wearing an imperial era hex receiver that was scrubbed and re-used.

The Finns continued to use WW1 and earlier hex receivers in new production riht up into the 1970's on M39's.

[tiriaq]

The recently developed, current issue Finn sniper rifles are built on hex receivers.

[Claven2]

The recently developed, current issue Finn sniper rifles are built on hex receivers.

The 7.62 TAK-85.

http://www.milsurps.com/images/imported/2007/01/1113200598_IMG_7971-1.jpg

Probably the oldest service arm still in use today, many of the actual receivers having been made in the early 1890's. Of course, they have been heavily modified. note that even the grasping shroud on the cocking piece has been milled off.

http://www.milsurps.com/images/imported/2007/01/1113205476_IMG_7982-1.jpg

http://www.milsurps.com/images/imported/2007/01/1083742430_05762_TKIV_85-1.jpg

[sdh1911]

Very cool, I'm Very very cool! The tula M44 must also be quite a rifle, from what I am told tula made very few M44's. I paid twice the going rate for mine (round receiver) and was happy to get it. I also have a sneak target rifle that was made on a Sessy with what looks like a 99 under the loop. The only marks on this rifle are a washed out Sessy logo and a very hard to read 99. B.R.-SDH

[Claven2]

Actually, you can see my tula M44 Hex in the MKL forum under Russia :)

[sdh1911]

I just checked it out, wanta trade???? It is by far the best lookinh M44 I have seen to date. I also noticed the wax wrapped bullets. If they have yellow tips, I have a few cases of that stuff and it shoots really well. Back to the M44, where did you find that beauty?SDH

[Claven2]

Got that beauty from a friend/dealer here in Canada. He knew I was looking for one so he dropped me a line when they showed up. Guess you could say I got "first pick" ;)

[sdh1911]

I did the same, but, was charged a little extra, but, don't mind. It's something you just don't see too much, B.R.-SDH