~ The Mysterious and Elusive type #1 Lockbar Sight

[Capt Quahog]

re: ~ The Mysterious and Elusive type #1 Lockbar Sight.

This is just a passing thought and somewhat of a curiosity question, Does anyone here either own or has encountered an M1 rifle equipped with a type #1 lockbar sight? Has anybody ever seen a type #1 lockbar sight?

I'm just guessing that most type #1 lockbar sights were replaced at the armorer's first opportunity. It would be logical to suppose that most of those sights were probably scrapped!

I have an early 1941 vintage M1 Garand rifle that by it's serial number was out-shopped from Springfield with a Flushnut sight set. Sometime later that Garand was equipped with a type #2 lockbar sight which it has now. Would guess that the 1941 rifle skipped right past type #1 lockbar retrofit sight phase.

Any type #1 sight collectors or aficionados around here? Thanks! . . . .:dancingbanana:

[American Patrol]

And own two of them on Brit LL Garands. My other Brit LL Garand has a flush nut sight.

[AL in MN]

Seen them on two original rifles.

[Joe W]

I wonder just how many rifles made it to combat areas. It seems, from what I read, that the Type 1 short pinion locking bar was only on those rifles manufactured from some time in early 1942 until late 42 or early 43. I wonder how they went about changing out sights on those rifles in the hands of combat troops.

[latigo 1]

I have three rifles with type I lock bar sights. have been trying for half an hour to post pics from my photobucket album with no luck. I guess the new board is a little too complicated for me.

[RCS]

type 1 lock bar on a June 1942 rifle

[kragluver]

A good friend of mine has one on his 1942 M1. It is a PITA as it comes loose all the time. No wonder they were replaced:)

[RCS]

Winchester went from the "flush nut" (photos) to the Type 2 lock bar. By removing just the flush nut, the Type 1 lock bar could be installed. The Type 2 required a different pinion

[Garandrew]

1942 SA 500K BLL
http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/ll373/AndrewG1957/Type%201%20lockbar/Stock009.jpg?t=1241606879

[Capt Quahog]

Thanks for the replies -

Find it interesting that Lend Lease M1 rifles seem to have been untouched by the Brits and made it back stateside pretty much as the left as built at the arsenal factory back in the 1941-42 period. Anybody ever receive an M1 Garand from the CMP equipped with type #1 lockbar set?

[Texasflyboy]

Yes. My 1995 CMP Springfield Armory Rifle (2Million Post WWII SHM rebuild with 46 dated barrel) has lock bar sights. Mine seems to have sat untouched since its rebuild until I received it. Has a J6 bolt. Winchester bits here and there. But mostly SA parts.

[latigo 1]

Yes. My 1995 CMP Springfield Armory Rifle (2Million Post WWII SHM rebuild with 46 dated barrel) has lock bar sights. Mine seems to have sat untouched since its rebuild until I received it. Has a J6 bolt. Winchester bits here and there. But mostly SA parts.

Lots of CMP rifles came with type II and type III lock bar sights. He is asking about the type I lock bar sight with the short pinion and 6-40 thread. Your rifle, being a 2 mil series, probably has the long pinion type.