8mm Mauser with Eagle proof marks

[Saltpeter]

Just got 2 clips (10 rounds) of unfired 8mm mauser from the gun show.

Box marking are:

8mm M.30 scharf
S-Patronen
Rottw.

XII. 1938

P 638

<<eagle marked with blue Nazi stamp>>

Case stamping are:

VIII
19 38
(eagle)

and eagle marked at the bottom of the clips too.

Any info about these rounds?

Thank you in advance! :)

[green]

They are 8X56R M30 Mannlicher cartridges (aka 8mm Hungarian) for converted Austrian M1895 rifles and carbines and the Hungarian M1935 rifle. They were made in Austria in 1938 after the German takeover. Not 8mm Mauser.

[Saltpeter]

Oops!:o

Thank you green.

Found one on the net too.

http://www.buymilsurp.com/store/images/fs/8X56RNAZI.JPG

US$15.00

Original 8X56R ammunition in 10 round boxes on loading clips. The clips are reusable. The box and each round are NAZI marked with the eagle and swastika. These are original late 30's manufacture. My experience with this is 95% will work. Due to the age of this ammo it is sold AS-IS. NO INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING ON AMMUNITION. Will only ship to Continental USA Addresses.

[JosephDerMauserSchiesser]

$15.00 US?? $7.00 US is more reasonable....

[JHC II]

that ammo would be worth a bit more on this side of the border!:banghead: :crying:

[JosephDerMauserSchiesser]

Yea, didnt take into consideration the difference in markets, currency... or countries for that matter

[Claven2]

I always find it interesting that the Reich, the Austrian legions and the Volkssturm didn't manage to shoot all that ammo up in the dark days of 1945. Especially considering that ammo was minted pre-war in 1939!

[sdh1911]

We still see quite a bit of that ammo in these parts. I haven't priced it recently but, I don't believe it's too bad-SDH

[sfoster]

The reason that ammo is still around is that great quantities of it, as well as large amounts of M-95 straight pull rifles, were provided to Bulgaria shortly after Austria was annexed by Germany. This happened around 1939, or 1940, before Germany had a desparate need for rifles of non-standard type.

That ammo has recently sky-rocketed in price, even in the mid Atlantic region of the USA. 18 monts ago, it was $2.00 a box. Npw, $10.00-15.00 for the same box. Even brass is tough, but at least its re-useable. Grafs just got some more in. $55.00 for 100 shells. Better get it while yoe can!

Sean

[Steve85569]

And the "eagles" are wauffens (sp) which were used as a stamp of approval. They also should appear on the Mauser rifle.
Steve

[Patrick Chadwick]

Rottw. is the abbreviation for Rottweil (yes, where the dogs come from!).

The Pulverfabrik Rottweil-Hamburg AG, in Rottweil became part of RWS (Rheinisch-Westfälische Sprengstoff AG) which itself is now part of the RUAG-Ammotec group. So the cartridges were actually made in Germany for the Austrian rifles. Up to WWII the big German manufacturers made ammo for just about the whole world apart from the UK and USA.

Source: RUAG-Ammotec company history.

Patrick

[Patrick Chadwick]

Rottw. is the abbreviation for Rottweil (yes, where the dogs come from!).
The Pulverfabrik Rottweil-Hamburg AG, in Rottweil became part of RWS (Rheinisch-Westfälische SPrengstoff AG) which itself is now part of the RUAG-Ammotec group. So the cartridges were actually made in Germany for the Austrian rifles. Up to WWII the big German manufacturers made ammo for just about the whole world apart from the UK and USA.

Source: RUAG-Ammotec company history.

Patrick