Spray Adhesive anyone got any comments???

[Curt]

So I helped out at two diffrent Rifle-Garand clinics this year and at both I heard the classroom instructors singing the high praise's and calling it can "OF" points..

I could see maybe during a rapid it being helpful, my only experiance to date is loaning my pristine 03A3 to a guy on the line at The Springfield Match at Perry and having it returned at match end with my beautiful C-stock all gooped up. (thanks alot if your out there!)

Just wondered who is using the stuff. Is it worth getting that crap all over my gear? My rapids are generally 94-98 on the reduced course I need standing points in can.Do they have that?

[John Kepler]

With a .30 cal....it helps keep you from sliding around both your mat and your rifle, with an AR, not so much! Remember....the "Gold Standard" Sitting is a "clean"!

BTW, the stuff comes right off with a little kerosene on a rag.

[Maury Krupp]

Yes, it does help in rapids. For me it's worth the cleanup.

I short-stock back to about the rear handguard clip in Sitting so I use a little glue (aka "Position in a Can") on my mitt so I don't have to grab with my hand. Allows me to relax and eliminates any risk of rubbing the op rod.

I used to use some on my right elbow for Prone Rapid but worked on my position a bit and now don't need it.

I can't see how it would be much help in slowfire Standing or Prone though. You get to rebuild your position for each shot; there is no breakdown like in rapids.

For cleanup I prefer Goo-Gone Gel on a cotton makeup pad. Lay it on the glue and let it soak a couple hours (or overnight); the glue will wipe right off. Unlike harsher solvents Goo-Gone doesn't seem to affect the stock finish (much).

I have seen a couple ratgunners use it. Mostly on their mitt because they have to short-stock due to that misplaced forward sling swivel.

Maury

[jjroth]

fits of laughter and marriement. When the "Positions in a Can", drops from standing into postion and AIN't where they are supposed to be.

Then you see various contortions: e.g.: the elcow scrunch as the shooter tryies to squezze the mat between the elbows toelevate the sigths, or the more
ambridextrous, foot walking trying to swing the entire mat into a new position.

This is truely a MASTER art from, and to be affect by those trying to "sop-up" points.

[limazulu]

Are there any rules that say where you can't use it for service rifle?

For example(s): You're not allowed to use the hook on your shooting coat but why couldn't you substitute the spray adhesive for the hook? Why couldn't you use it to hold your butt fixed against your shoulder?

[Maury Krupp]

Are there any rules that say where you can't use it for service rifle?

CMP Rule 6.1.2(7): "Permanent non-slip surface finishes may not be added to the rifle, but spray adhesives may be used on the rifle."

NRA does not address the issue.

So you can glue just about anything to anything else.

Whether you want to is another matter entirely ;)

Maury

[limazulu]

CMP Rule 6.1.2(7): "Permanent non-slip surface finishes may not be added to the rifle, but spray adhesives may be used on the rifle."

NRA does not address the issue.

So you can glue just about anything to anything else.

Whether you want to is another matter entirely ;)

Maury

Thanks Maury, I'm glad you're around because you sure know the rules. (I tend to forget my own name:red face:)

I know what you mean when it comes to using it. It can be a real sticky mess. I've put some on my shooting pad for a spot to anchor an elbow.... the spot gets covered with bits of grass and everything else. Plus on a hot day prying myself away from the mat can be interesting. Using it on the sling would probably be more trouble then help.

[Curt]

OK thanks for the input. I am gonna stay away from the stuff for now, or maybe just try the left elbow. My buddy who is always pushing the stuff to new shooters, he also thinks is AR shoots to a diffrent point of aim with diffrent mags.He Was arguing it with me last sunday, I beat him by 4-Xs (467 8-X 100 yd reduced).Then I told him if i spray glued and numbered my mags I would have to move up a class and we couldn't be friends anymore..

[Bob S]

You might try Firm Grip instead of "shooting adhesive". Shooting adhesive is just that ... glue. Firm grip is a rosin compound that was developed for tennis players about 45 years ago. Shooters "adopted" it shortly there after. It will keep two surfaces from slipping without actually gluing them together. Much easier to "adjust" your position if you need to.

Resp'y,
Bob S.

[USNCB]

Another use for "Firm Grip": Contestants in the Miss America contest spray it on their butts before competition, so that their bathiing suits don't "ride up" in the back.

USNCB

[John Kepler]

Yeah....well, I'm probably one of the reasons the stuff is illegal in NCAA and most high school football! We used to slather the crap on with a trowel....if I could get a hand on you, you weren't getting away even if it pulled my shoulder out of it's socket!

FWIW, in my experience, Firm Grip tends to get runny and down-right slick when it gets hot....most shooting "Stick'um doesn't!

[Bob S]

John:

Sounds like you used the stuff that came as a paste in a jar. Haven't seen it packaged that way in a few decades. I never had any "runny" problems with the stuff from the spray cans, including many matches in 100-degree-plus heat at Quantico.

Resp'y,
Bob S.

[John Kepler]

Yep....that was the stuff! As for Stick'um in general.....haven't needed any since I quit shootin' .30 cals, so my data is out-of-date!

[Curt]

I saw the offending can this weekend it was called Shooters Grip.

[presidents100]

I used that stuff all over except for my face.
On my jeans to boots.
pistol grip, prevents doubles m-14
elbows to mat
glove to rifle
butt plate to shoulder/ prevents slipping and vertical strings
offhand supporting arm to jacket.
elbow to knee in sitting both arms.
make everything solid as a rock.
487 13x ////////how sweet
It's not for gun shows/ it's for shooting tight groups at long distances.