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Military Surplus Collectors Forums - The Ross Rifle Knowledge Library Collectors Forum http://www.milsurps.com Forum for discussion by serious collectors of Ross rifles, accessories, ammunition, and accoutrements en Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:18:59 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.milsurps.com/images/import/misc/rss.jpg Military Surplus Collectors Forums - The Ross Rifle Knowledge Library Collectors Forum http://www.milsurps.com Fundamentals of Small Arms Weapons (WWII U.S. Training Film) http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=16735&goto=newpost Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:57:35 GMT

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Fundamentals of Small Arms Weapons (WWII U.S. Training Film)

This video is a demonstration of the mechanics of pistols, rifles and machine guns. You'll learn the difference of how semi-automatic and automatic rifles, fire, gas operation vs. blowback operation. What exactly happens in chambering, locking, cocking, firing, unlocking, extraction, ejection and feeding.

As reviewed by Rickard Z. ….. "This series of 3 WWII training films is an excellent learning tool showing in detail how guns work. Contrary to stereotypes of the Army being bureaucratic critic and inefficient, the soldiers who produced these films really got it right."

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Infantry Weapons and their Effects (WWII U.S. Training Film)

"Infantry Weapons and Their Effects" is an official WWII era training film which demonstrates the use of standard issue U.S. infantry weapons and their effects on various targets. This is a really interesting and unusual video. See rifles, pistols & heavy machine guns shoot into & through steel German helmets, concrete walls, 12 inch tree trunks, & more.

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]]> The Ross Rifle Knowledge Library Collectors Forum Badger http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=16092 Some comments on my Ross, please http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=15729&goto=newpost Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:44:55 GMT [ATTACH]Attachment 7142[/ATTACH]I have been reading the Ross threads, with interest. It is vastly under-rated rifle. I just wish it would feed round nose bullets, as they seem to be most accurate in mine. It shoots very well.
Attached are some pictures of the buttstock of my Mark II 3*. The info is there, but not being Canadian, I need some interpretation.
Are the number-over-number stampings indicative of military organizations to which this rifle belonged ?
It did belong to the US Army, like most of the Rosses I have seen in 35 years of collecting. I know the story of those rifles, and what their usage was.
Visible underneath the US Flaming Bomb and US serial number stamped between the pistol grip and trigger guard, there is a small sized number. Was this some sort of marking that Canada put there? It has been overstamped, but it is visible.
The butt is stamped CEF, which is lined out. I hope it is visible in the pictures. Does this mean that this rifle got to France? I was under the impression that only Mark III s made it there.
Any information would be appreciated.

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]]> The Ross Rifle Knowledge Library Collectors Forum bandook http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=15729 Wooden stock piece? http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=15678&goto=newpost Sat, 26 Sep 2009 14:32:49 GMT HI ALL... Does anyone have the small wooden stock piece just forward of the bolt but behind the sight ? The model I have is marked Ross Rifle Co.... HI ALL...

Does anyone have the small wooden stock piece just forward of the bolt but behind the sight ?

The model I have is marked Ross Rifle Co. Quebec Canada 1905 ? ]]> The Ross Rifle Knowledge Library Collectors Forum civilwar1 http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=15678 Help with Ross MK II Unit Markings http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=15561&goto=newpost Tue, 22 Sep 2009 02:04:56 GMT This one has a lot of history. Expertise appreciated. I picked this up at the Hampton VA show on Sunday. US marked, so part of the 20k purchased in... This one has a lot of history. Expertise appreciated. I picked this up at the Hampton VA show on Sunday. US marked, so part of the 20k purchased in 1917. All the cancelled armorer stamps show quite a bit of use. Can someone decipher for me? 5th Pioneers is easy. All the CEF are training marks from England? Thanks!!

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]]> The Ross Rifle Knowledge Library Collectors Forum Arisaka99 http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=15561 Ross sport http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=15559&goto=newpost Tue, 22 Sep 2009 01:26:53 GMT I have never seen a Ross other then in pictures. Then I found one in a sport store minus lower handguard, bayo lug, etc. Had a lot of markings on the... I have never seen a Ross other then in pictures. Then I found one in a sport store minus lower handguard, bayo lug, etc. Had a lot of markings on the stock face but I did not write done what was there.

I think there was a rear different sight on it.

Store wanted $350.00 for it. I thought it was too much for the condition of the rifle. What does the forum think?

Also, are spare parts readily available? I could make an offer for the rifle ]]> The Ross Rifle Knowledge Library Collectors Forum A. F Medic http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=15559 My Ross Rifle http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=15536&goto=newpost Mon, 21 Sep 2009 12:24:03 GMT I had to post some pics of my Ross here to honor this forum :) Image:... I had to post some pics of my Ross here to honor this forum :)

]]> The Ross Rifle Knowledge Library Collectors Forum Amatikulu http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=15536 The Long Awaited Ross Forum is Here! http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=15533&goto=newpost Mon, 21 Sep 2009 06:36:00 GMT Happy to see that there is now a dedicated forum.:super:

Might have to drag out my lonely WWI Ross for a bit o' fun! (T'ain't too many nice Rosses around my part of the world, and I'm down to just the one, currently. ]]> The Ross Rifle Knowledge Library Collectors Forum jmoore http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=15533 Ross HG (Home Guard) MKIII Rifle http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=15516&goto=newpost Sun, 20 Sep 2009 20:36:01 GMT Canada -...]]>

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Ross HG (Home Guard) MKIII Rifle
"County of York 51st Rifle"

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Caliber: ....................... .303 in., Mk VII Ammo
Rifling & Twist: ............. 4 Groove, Enfield, Left Hand Twist
Barrel Length: .............. 30.5 in. (775mm)
Overall Length: ............ 50.5 in. (1283mm)
Overall Length: ............ 60.5 in. (1537mm) with bayonet attached
Weight: ....................... 8.6 lbs. (3.9kg)
Magazine Capacity: ...... 5 rounds, loaded with chargers
FRT #: ......................... 2126-1
Note: .......................... Mfg primarily 1914-1917, some assembled parts into 1918

Source: ....................... The Ross Rifle Story - ISBN: 0-9732416-0-8

Canadian Market Value Estimate: $

Ross HG (Home Guard) MKIII Rifle

(58 picture virtual tour)

Observations: (by "Claven2")
Note: Pics of actual MKL rifle provided courtesy of MILSURPS.COM member Longbranch*.

During the Second Boer War, Canada lobbied the British Government to license Canadian production of the Short Magazine Lee-Enfield Mk1, a new pattern of the Lee-Enfield that was then being developed to address shortcomings identified in the Magazine Lee Enfield ("long lee") - the British refused. About the same time, Sir Charles Ross, a Scottish nobleman and inventor, offered a new straight-pull rifle as a replacement infantry arm for Canadian service. Ross was able to exert much personal influence upon Canadian politicians and officials, eventually landing his first contract in 1903 for 12,000 Mark I Ross rifles.

Ross' design was revolutionary at the time. The rifle's bolt was conceived with an internal screw mechanism that automatically rotated the locking surfaces of the bolt head in and out of battery as the handle was manipulated back and forth linearly. In theory, straight-pull guns could be operated faster than turn-bolt rifles with a greater economy of movement on the part of the soldier, allowing them to remain better concealed when firing from the prone position. The design was also heralded as being inherently accurate compared to many contemporary turn-bolt designs. Additionally, the Ross was lighter than the Lee-Enfield and could be disassembled without the need for special tools.

Being a new design, the Ross Rifle was not without early growing pains. The first 1,000 rifles to be produced and procured were given to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) for field testing. Inspection of the rifles found 113 defects bad enough to warrant rejection by the Government, including a poorly designed bolt lock that sometimes caused the bolt to fall out of the rifle. The poor quality of the springs being used were also cause for great concern. In 1906, the RCMP handed in their Ross rifles in favor of returning to reliable Lee Metfords and lever-action carbines they had used previously.

Subsequent to the somewhat disappointing experience the RCMP had with the Ross, the rifle underwent a series of modifications to address any newly-highlighted deficiencies in the design. The result was the Mark II Ross (Model 1905). Prior to the First World War, the Commonwealth Forces had been experimenting with smaller-diameter high-velocity cartridges, usually rimless or semi-rimless, one of which was the high-pressure .280 Ross. In 1907, the Mk II was modified to withstand the increased pressure generated by the .280 Ross - the variant being called the Ross Mk II** - though no .280 Ross chambered rifles were adopted and issued for military service.

Further experience, and the resultant development to address design faults, led to the Ross Model 1910 (Ross MkIII). It was a completely new design with a much-changed locking mechanism and single-stack magazine that protruded from the stock. As a result, there is virtually no parts interchangeability between the Ross Model 1905 and the Ross Model 1910.

In all, approximately 420,000 Ross service rifles were produced, 342,040 of which were purchased by the British.

The Ross Model 1910 was the standard infantry rifle on issue to the First Canadian Contingent of the Canadian Expeditionary Force when it arrived in France in February 1915, Canada having automatically entered WW1 alongside Great Britain on August 4, 1914. Sadly, the Canadian experience of the Ross Rifle in the trenches would forever thereafter be remembered in infamy.

The first serious problems with the rifle became apparent during the Second Battle of Ypres in April 1915. Unlike the Short Magazine Lee Enfield (SMLE) MkIII being used by British forces, the Ross proved to have a very poor tolerance of dirt and grit, the screw threads operating the bolt lugs would then jam the weapon open or closed in the heat of battle. The propensity to jam was exacerbated because the bolt's outer face could hit the bolt stop and deform the threads that locked the bolt head. After battles, dead Canadian soldiers could be seen clutching jammed Ross rifles, in some cases the soldiers had tried desperately to clear jams by hitting the bolt handles with their boot heels.

Another problem arose as a result of the very fast pace of training due to the pressures of war. If not properly reassembled after cleaning, the Ross MkIII bolt could remain unlocked and still fire a cartridge. If the rifle were fired from the shoulder under these conditions, the bolt could be violently ejected from the rifle's receiver, often leading to the death or disfigurement of the firer. Just when it seemed the situation could not get much worse, it became apparent that the bayonet had a tendency to dismount from the rifle when it was fired and the blade point had not been designed to sufficiently penetrate the great-coats that German soldiers were in the habit of wearing.

The situation became so bad that many men of the First Contingent (now renamed the First Canadian Division) at Ypres took to salvaging SMLE MkIII rifles from the corpses of British casualties to replace their malfunctioning Ross MkIII rifles. By the time of the Somme battles of July 1916, Sir Douglas Haig, the new Commander-in-Chief of the British Expeditionary Force, had ordered the replacement of all Ross rifles in the three Canadian Divisions by the Lee-Enfield, which was finally available in quantity.

The Canadian Minister of Militia and Defense, SamHughes, did not believe there were problems with the Ross significant enough to warrant its withdrawal from front-line service and it took the advice of many officials and politicians to eventually convince him otherwise. In November 1916, Hughes resigned - probably in large part over the growing scandal surrounding the issue of the Ross MkIII. After that time, Ross rifles were generally relegated to training roles, both in Canada and the UK, to free up much-needed SMLE rifles for front-line service. Ross rifles were also shipped to the U.S. in 1917 for training purposes, allowing re-distribution of available M1903 Springfield rifles.

Perhaps due to its legendary long range accuracy, the Ross rifle continued in use among Allied snipers well after it was withdrawn from front-line use. The Ross apparently performed well in this role, provided that specially-selected, clean ammunition was used.

Apart from the rather bad account the Ross Rifle was giving of itself in Europe, the rifle was still well-regarded at the rifle range and in climates where mud, dirt and grit infiltration were of less concern. While the threat of invasion in North America was largely imaginary, Home Guard units were organized and trained to counteract this perceived threat. Among other arms, a small quantity of Ross MkIII rifles was procured for home-guard units. Though serial number records are non-existant, observation of known rifles places the number of Home Guard rifles produced at about 1,000. Unlike the rifles issued to the Canadian Forces, Home-guard rifles were serial numbered on the barrel and were stamped "H.G." on the butt in place of the Quebec Roundel and model markings more typically encountered.

Unit markings are generally also present on Home Guard issued Ross Rifles, the above example having been rifle number 51 in service with the County of York Home Guard unit. The pristine condition of this rifle speaks to its history of only incidental use.

Collector's Comments and Feedback:

1. The following is an extract from "The Ross Rifle Story" on Home Guard MKIII's:

"Issued to the Home Guard. Although these were issued to quasi-military units, the rifles do not have military issue marks on the butt.Instead, they have H.G.B.of M., or H.G.21(name or number of unit) on the butt only. On the left side of the breech, a rifle serial number is stamped ie:HG 16977. The number of Home Guard rifles produced probably numbers 1,000. 260 are known to have been delivered by the dominion Rifle Co. after expropriation of the Ross Rifle Co. Serial numbers of rifles fall into two clusters,12,125-12,611 and 13,863-17,977. One such rifle seen has the year of issue, 1915, on the butt". ...... (Feedback by Geoff "Longbranch*" McGuire)

2. I don't know about the HG rifles from the Dominion Rifle Factory, but the earlier HG rifles exhibit all the features of early production Mk. III rifles. Small aperture in rear sight, small bolt stop, sling swivel in front of trigger guard, unaltered chamber, etc. Issue Mk. III rifles would likely have been altered during their period of service, with chambers enlarged, bolt stops replaced, aperture opened out.

I simply do not know how common it was for bolts to be launched from rifles. It certainly happened, but whether it was common or not, I do not know. If a bolt was blown open, the extent of injuries to the shooter tended to depend on how the rifle was being held. The bolt generally will not pass the bolt stop. If the shooter was standing, in an erect position, the bolt might not strike him. If the rifle was snuggled in, the injury could be horrific.

Jamming problems were not universal; some veterans reported that a lack of reliability was not a factor. Careful maintenance was certainly a consideration.

Incidentally, my HG rifle is butt marked HG100. It is in near new condition. There are no brass smears on the feed ramp, or in the magazine, and no primer ring on the boltface. ...... (Feedback by tiriaq)

3. This is likely the finest Home Guard Ross to come on the market for a few years now- never been messed with! The Home Guards were produced to commercial tolerances, not sloppy military ones. Total production is believed to be less than 1,000 rifles, and most that have turned up were found either unfired or very lightly used. ...... (Feedback by Rossguy)

4. I would like to add the following comments.

A figure of 342,040 Ross rifles is quoted as being purchasd by the British. I belive this figure is inaccurate. Here is the actual breakdown.

- Ross Mk111B rifles orderd by British Government, 100,000. Actually delivered; 66,591.
- Taken over from the Canadian Government in exchange for SMLE's 95,674.
- Purchased by the Admiralty, from the USA in 1915 - model not known for sure- 750.
- Purchased from Canada by Britain in 1940 for British Home Guard use, 75,000.

The total is therefore ( if we included the 95,674 exchanged Ross rifles), 238,015.

...... (Feedback by Alan "AlanD" David, Sydney Australia) ]]> The Ross Rifle Knowledge Library Collectors Forum Badger http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=15516 Ross M-10 Rifle Bolt Disassembly http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=15514&goto=newpost Sun, 20 Sep 2009 20:31:43 GMT Technical...]]>

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Ross M-10 Rifle Bolt Disassembly

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Note: After you click on images to ENLARGE them, you may find they automatically size smaller in your browser's window making them harder to view. The auto sizing is your browser's way of keeping images entirely within the screen size you have set. Move your mouse pointer to the bottom centre of the pic and you will see an options panel appear. There will be a small square box next to the large X, which will have a pointer arrow sticking out of it. If it's illuminated, it means the pic you're viewing can be enlarged, so click on this box and the pic will EXPAND and open to its normal size.

Here are some pics to help you in your first try at this "daunting" task. I had to take the pics in a hurry to help a CanadianGunNutz member and some of the pics aren't perfect but I promise to redo some of them for more clarity.

OK, let's roll! First, you have to take the extractor out by lifting it to clear the retaining groove on the bolthead. To do this, place a flat-bladed screwdriver under the extractor near the groove and pry just enough to clear the groove. Push on it outwards and it's done.

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Now take time to inspect the rear part of the bolt; notice there is a through hole at the end of the firing pin. Thread a wire or a hook into that hole to give you some purchase.

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Put the bolt in a vice with padded jaws so it cannot move; pull on the firing pin and place a small 1 1/4" wood block in he sear block groove.

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You'll notice a short, fat crosspin with rounded ends; this is the pin that secures the firing pin into the sear block. Push it out with a nail driver while keeping tension on the firing pin; it doesn't need much effort to slide out. Take the wood block out and let the firing pin come to rest slowly.

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Here's the sear and crosspin out

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Now, after marking them, grasp the two parts of the bolt and slowly unscrew them. Mark the point where they separate with a marker or machinist scribe if you intend to use strong solvents. Here are the two parts of the bolt and assorted bits.

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Now, you have to take the firing pin and its spring out. There is a threaded stopper at the rear which has two ears; it unscrews in the normal manner but there is a special retainer behind it that prevents any unwanted unscrewing. It clicks on every half-turn. Adjust your bench vise jaws open just enough to let the firing pin pass and unscrew the firing pin stop by turning the bolt body. Here's the part with the bolt stop unscrewed one turn for clarity.

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Here's the firing pin and related parts still assembled; notice the special retainer washer with outside projection and two locating nubs on its surface: that projection fits in a groove inside the bolt sleeve (to keep the washer from rotating) with the twin nubs facing outwards toward the threaded stopper.

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Here are the parts disassembled

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And here is the elephant, skinned, quartered and ready for cleaning.

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Observations: (by "PerversPépère")

If your bolt is of the "safety rivet" kind, there's only one way to reassemble it; for the "unrivetted" ones (much rarer) you can fumble it but there is only one position where reassembly is smooth. One surefire way to be certain: the gas port will face up when the bolt is in the open position. Now, reassembly is in the exact reverse order BUT there's a trick: when you have finally succeeded in starting the inner bolt inside the sleeve, you'll reach a point where the bolthead cannot turn the final 80-90 degrees. You have to pull apart the two pieces ever so slightly and you'll feel a slight 1/16" movement then the bolthead will rotate in place.

This last stage can drive you crazy if you don't do it right but it is so smooth once you discover the Ali Baba's secret move, you won't believe!

Good cleaning and NEVER force anything: if you have to force, something is wrong.

Collector's Comments and Feedback:

1. CAUTION: I have an update on the unpinned bolts by Tiriaq that is quite chilling! He sent me two pics of an actual unpinned M-10 bolt that has been reassembled WRONG!. From what I understand, there is no real effort in reassembling an unpinned bolt in the wrong way. The only problem is when one tries to put it back in the rifle, but, given enough ham-fisted stubbornness it can be done with potentially DEADLY results. The bolthead doesn't lock but engages just enough to permit firing pin spring tension to be established and pressure of the trigger can fire the primer! :eek:

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After studying these images and discussing them with Tiriaq, I came to the conclusion that there can be a sure-fire way of knowing if your bolt has been reassembled correctly:
(a) Make sure that there are no ammo left in the magazine and action.
(b) Pull back on the bolt; you should feel a definite tension working against the opening. This is caused by the camming of the rotating bolthead against the firing pin spring.
(c) Open the bolt fully, then slide it closed but do not push the bolt past the resistance point which cams the bolthead and makes it rotate back into its lug recesses.
(d) Press the trigger with the barrel pointing downwards. If correctly reassembled, the bolt will snap shut from the firing spring thrust and rotation of the lugs.
(e) Now that the action is relaxed, pull the bolt back. You should need a fair amount of muscle to open it, cam the spring into compression and rotate the lugs open.

Feedback by "PerversPépère" and "Tiriaq"

2. Update Aug 10th, 2006: I went on Gunboards forum and one of the subjects delved into the M-10 Ross peculiarities and the infamous "bolt not locking" problem. So I started there the same thread we have been discussing here, with the pics and additions. A Gunboards member added a comment I found to be of the utmost importance.

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"The bolt of an un-riveted M-10 does NOT need to be disassembled to cause the bolthead to not rotate.

If you pull the bolt from the rifle, you will notice (assuming the bolt is in the correct way to begin with) the bolthead rotate and extend from the bolt sleeve--if you don't, you have a problem! Pull the bolt from the rifle, the bolthead may snap back into the sleeve--probably will, in fact.

Grasp the bolthead and pull and rotate it back out as it should be to insert it into the rifle. It'll sort of snap into a small detent.

NOW...if you continue to rotate the bolthead the same direction about 1/8 of a turn, suddenly the bolthead will snap back into the bolt sleeve. However, notice that the threaded lugs are now very nearly in the same position as they are when the sleeve is extended.

With a little fiddling, the bolt can be inserted into the rifle.

Of course, with the bolthead retracted, it's not going to turn into the receiver, it'll simply close without locking. Pull the trigger in this state, and GunNutz is out a member."

I think this can explain a lot of the accidents that happened when the bolts were not riveted to prevent the bolthead to go 180 degrees. This could be avoided by looking to make sure the gas port was turned upwards when in the retracted position but, in combat zones, there were many instances where that simple check could be skipped...(Feedback by "PerversPépère")

Note: The opinions expressed herein or statements made in this article are solely those of the author, and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Military Surplus Collectors Forums, or the ownership and moderation group of this site. MILSURPS.COM accepts no legal liability or responsibility for any claims made or opinions expressed herein. Also, please note that neither the author nor MILSURPS.COM recommends that any member of these forums, or a reader of this article, try this type of experimentation without the proper knowledge, equipment and training. ]]> The Ross Rifle Knowledge Library Collectors Forum Badger http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=15514 Ross Model 10.... http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=15332&goto=newpost Sun, 13 Sep 2009 06:27:00 GMT what to know about it? How different from the service variant used the Canadian forces in WWI? what to know about it?
How different from the service variant used the Canadian forces in WWI? ]]> The Ross Rifle Knowledge Library Collectors Forum jjroth http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=15332 Ross Rifle Handbook 1907 http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=15123&goto=newpost Wed, 09 Sep 2009 12:20:06 GMT Click on back to full album to be able to read text.

http://news.webshots.com/slideshow/5...FPjaAB8qQMiDos ]]> The Ross Rifle Knowledge Library Collectors Forum diopter http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=15123