Military Surplus Collectors Forums - The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum http://www.milsurps.com/ Forum for general conversations about almost anything OT (off topic), from pets to sporting guns, or whatever you want ..... but NO POLITICS en Fri, 03 Sep 2010 04:19:18 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.milsurps.com/images/tacticalgamer/misc/rss.png Military Surplus Collectors Forums - The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum http://www.milsurps.com/ Repairing Inexpensive Colt 22 Rifles: Courier, Colteer and Stagecoach http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24654&goto=newpost Thu, 02 Sep 2010 04:30:12 GMT If someone were to ask you which products Colt has sold over the years, would you say a .22 semiautomatic rifle? I didn't think you would. Colt made three versions of .22 rifles, the Courier, Colteer and Stagecoach, as well as others under several private-label names for Sears, Wards and other companies. This alloy rifle shot well, but did not hold up well. Unless it was kept oiled and clean, the alloy parts wore very rapidly. In spite of this, the little Colt rifles were good enough lightweight shooters that most owners will pay to get them fixed rather than discard theirs.

More... ]]> The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum Newsfeed Hound http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24654 Kel-Tec P11 9mm, $368 http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24653&goto=newpost Thu, 02 Sep 2010 04:00:10 GMT The P11 is a 9mm handgun with a 3.1-inch barrel. Capacity was 10+1, thanks to a double-column magazine. The suggested retail price of the base model... The P11 is a 9mm handgun with a 3.1-inch barrel. Capacity was 10+1, thanks to a double-column magazine. The suggested retail price of the base model was only $314 and featured a blued slide. Our P11 carried a hard-chromed slide and cost $368, but the same gun was available for $355 should you choose a P11 with a Parkerized finish. The inexpensive Kel-Tec P11 shared at least one design concept found on some more expensive pistols.

More... ]]> The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum Newsfeed Hound http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24653 another cartridge quiz http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24651&goto=newpost Thu, 02 Sep 2010 02:23:30 GMT post WW2 cartridges, some are still around. Maybe these will take longer to identify ?Attachment 15427
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]]> The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum RCS http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24651 Pellet gun experts ? (Need help with Crosman M70) http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24614&goto=newpost Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:16:57 GMT One of those "bolt-action" CO2 powered types modeled after a real rifle. Gun was handed to me for "fixing", it is leaking gas somewhere (audible hiss when you put in a new CO2 cartridge).

Current own would like to fix it so his son can use it (kid is coming to age).

Is anyone familiar with those whom could give me an idea how they come appart I've seen pellet/bb guns that seem to come appart like glorified Chinese puzzles in the past so I figured I'd ask before I start backing out screws and drifting out pins. ]]> The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum RobSmith http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24614 Off Topic http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24548&goto=newpost Sat, 28 Aug 2010 08:13:21 GMT Anyone looking for one of these ? They just came on the market down here. Makes the two trigger housings I have on the same Auction look a bit... Anyone looking for one of these ? They just came on the market down here. Makes the two trigger housings I have on the same Auction look a bit miserable !. Mike.Attachment 15341Attachment 15342
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]]> The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum Mikey51 http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24548 Troubleshooting Ejection Failures On the Remington 1100 http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24515&goto=newpost Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:50:28 GMT Introduced in 1963, the Remington Model 1100 shotgun has been around for over 40 years now. Variations include a sporter for field shooting, a Magnum... Introduced in 1963, the Remington Model 1100 shotgun has been around for over 40 years now. Variations include a sporter for field shooting, a Magnum version for ducks and geese, as well as a skeet and trap model for those who enjoy breaking clay targets. In all, there have been well over 3,500,000 Model 1100s produced over this period of time so you are bound to see one (or more) come across your bench. In this article, I'll cover some of the common problems that result in ejection failures along with a few of the possible glitches that aren't seen very often. And, of course, I'll examine the cures that will help you get this shotgun back in service as quickly and efficiently as possible.

More... ]]> The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum Newsfeed Hound http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24515 Glock G34 9mm http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24514&goto=newpost Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:20:22 GMT According to the manufacturer, the Glock pistol was the first "industrially manufactured handgun with high-tech polymer grips." The barrels and slides are coated with what Glock describes as a "high-tech surface refinement" that they call Tenifer. The benefits of this "carbonitriding" coating are not only corrosion resistance and reduced glare but also resistance to abrasion. Tenifer coating is highly rated on the Rockwell Cone hardness scale at 64 HRC.Some Glock pistols are available with different color frames, but our G34 was basic black. The defining feature of the G34 was its long 5.3-inch barrel with polygonal rifling, covered by a slide that included a gaping hole just to the rear of the front sight. This relief measured approximately 1.75 inches long by 0.75 inches wide. Glock says that this serves to reduce stress on the frame. The dustcover beneath the slide was also longer, making room for a healthy sized accessory rail, which was molded into place. The schematic breakdown of the Glock pistol with magazine lists only 34 separate parts, 36 if you count the magazine insert at the base plate (part 32a), and the front sight blade, part number 16a.

More... ]]> The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum Newsfeed Hound http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24514 Looks like a German burlap bag. http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24386&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Aug 2010 23:46:49 GMT I saw it but have not downloaded an image of it yet It looks like a large burlap bag with a quite clear German spread eagle on it. Under that are... I saw it but have not downloaded an image of it yet

It looks like a large burlap bag with a quite clear German spread eagle on it.
Under that are H.Ypfl 1941. Any suggestions? ]]> The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum A. F Medic http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24386 Looks like a German burlap bag. http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24385&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Aug 2010 23:41:38 GMT I saw it but have not downloaded an image of it yet It looks like a large burlap bag with a quite clear German spread eagle on it. Under that are... I saw it but have not downloaded an image of it yet

It looks like a large burlap bag with a quite clear German spread eagle on it.
Under that are H.Ypfl 1941. Any suggestions?

Sorry! Could not get the extra one to delete............ ]]> The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum A. F Medic http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24385 Attention D.C., Maryland, and Virginia shooters - gun club open house http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24362&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Aug 2010 02:28:35 GMT The Northern Virginia Gun Club will be having its annual Open House on Saturday, September 25, 11 AM - 3 PM in conjunction with National Hunting And... The Northern Virginia Gun Club will be having its annual Open House on Saturday, September 25, 11 AM - 3 PM in conjunction with National Hunting And Fishing Day. NVGC is located at 8486 Caledon Road (Rt. 218) in King George, Va., about 18 miles east of Fredericksburg.
Interested parties should visit our website at Northern Virginia Gun Club for further information and directions. ]]> The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum Greg H. in Virginia http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24362 Springfield Armory Milspec PB1132 38 Super, $682 http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24337&goto=newpost Wed, 18 Aug 2010 22:40:13 GMT The Mil Spec model is in some ways a commemorative pistol without getting gaudy or expensive. It has classic styling including a basic military style... The Mil Spec model is in some ways a commemorative pistol without getting gaudy or expensive. It has classic styling including a basic military style grip safety and solid hammer tang.

More... ]]> The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum Newsfeed Hound http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24337 <![CDATA[Working Colt's Model 1877 Double-Action Revolvers]]> http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24338&goto=newpost Wed, 18 Aug 2010 22:40:13 GMT Colt's first double-action revolver was their model of 1877, a six-shot, rod-ejector pistol capable of both double- and singe-action operation. The revolver was designed in 1876 by a well known Colt employee, William Mason. The 1877 pistols were built on a medium frame, and used a small birds-head-shaped grip. They were initially chambered only in the .38 Long Colt caliber, though the .41 Colt caliber was added later. Small numbers were also manufactured in .32 Colt caliber. "Lightning" was the nickname given to the .38-caliber versions, while .41-caliber revolvers came to be known as the "Thunderer." These revolvers were made both with and without an ejector and in barrel lengths that ranged from 2 to 7 inches.

More... ]]> The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum Newsfeed Hound http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24338 Springfield Armory Milspec PB1132 38 Super http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24336&goto=newpost Wed, 18 Aug 2010 22:10:12 GMT The Mil Spec model is in some ways a commemorative pistol without getting gaudy or expensive. It has classic styling including a basic military style... The Mil Spec model is in some ways a commemorative pistol without getting gaudy or expensive. It has classic styling including a basic military style grip safety and solid hammer tang.

More... ]]> The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum Newsfeed Hound http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24336 Has anybody saved a mil surp? http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24285&goto=newpost Mon, 16 Aug 2010 18:14:40 GMT Hey there everybody! Just a quick question....have you ever got a sporterized mil surp or a gun in horrible shape that you have brought back to its... Hey there everybody! Just a quick question....have you ever got a sporterized mil surp or a gun in horrible shape that you have brought back to its original military configuration or fixed up to look good again? Please post pics :thup: Thanks! ]]> The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum ww2freak http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24285 Marmite jars http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24203&goto=newpost Thu, 12 Aug 2010 16:42:25 GMT I just finished reading 'The Battered Bastards of Bastogne' by Geo. E. Koskimaki and he refers two or more times about hot food being delivered to the line in "marmite jars"; I know what 'marmite' is but in my years of reading about U.S. military endeavors, I've never seen a referral to the marmite jars. Anyone know what they were/are? TIA. old crow ]]> The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum old crow http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24203 Gunsmithing MAK 90 Rifles http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24188&goto=newpost Wed, 11 Aug 2010 18:50:09 GMT GunReports.com learns about the MAK 90s, one of the most common AK copies in the U.S. today. Here are tips on what to do—and what not to do—if you... GunReports.com learns about the MAK 90s, one of the most common AK copies in the U.S. today. Here are tips on what to do—and what not to do—if you need to work on one.

More... ]]> The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum Newsfeed Hound http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24188 Legacy Sports Puma PCH87003 Lever Action, $1229 http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24187&goto=newpost Wed, 11 Aug 2010 18:10:17 GMT So, with all this interest in the 1887, we wanted to see which one we'd buy for fun shooting. The Armi Chiappa 1887 Fast Load 930.004, which we found selling under the Puma name by Legacy Sports International for $1229, had 12-gauge barrels chambered for 2.75-inch modern shells.

More... ]]> The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum Newsfeed Hound http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24187 Found a number of Gun support images. These are two of them.. http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24140&goto=newpost Mon, 09 Aug 2010 01:39:06 GMT Image: http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/FLYINGMEDIC/AAAAs_order3.jpg Image:...

]]> The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum A. F Medic http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24140 Couple of plane images. http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24138&goto=newpost Mon, 09 Aug 2010 01:31:52 GMT Image: http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s165/FLYINGMEDIC/color065_P51Mustang.jpg Image:...


]]> The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum A. F Medic http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24138 Another scam! http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24136&goto=newpost Mon, 09 Aug 2010 01:17:37 GMT My son is trying to move from Salt Lake City back to Northern Pa. He has looked for various homes here on the internet and he has been getting this... My son is trying to move from Salt Lake City back to Northern Pa. He has looked for various homes here on the internet and he has been getting this email response in various forms. The guy may be a Engineer working in Africa or a minister working in Africa, etc. They want your personal information.

My son is no dummy as he is a Design Consultant and he caught this right away. The people who are doing this must have access to sales, rentals, etc. Copy and forward if you want!!


I have removed the house address. Always cheap rent or price!!!



Hello,

It's my great pleasure that you are interested in our lovely 2BR, 1Full bath home for rent. I am Pastor Thomas Daniel the owner of this home, Actually we resided in this home before and presently we have packed out due to my transfer as a matter of my profession,where I work as a volunteer with Evangelical Council of Financial Accountability (ECFA),here is the site for more detail about why I am here in West Africa,Nigeria. (Wycliffe Bible Translators: World Missions for Unreached People Groups
) And my wife who is a missionary's dealing with Bible Translation and literacy worldwide.

As soon as we settle down here I had a thought of selling the house so I have to look for an agent, after getting one, we got a deal but later my wife advised against that. I reasoned with her and accepted her advise. So I contacted the agent back and requested for my keys and documents. Later we decided to have the house rent out, we would have give the same agent this job also but the truth of the matter is that the agent would want to handle it professionally and the occupant may not be able to reason along with him later. If you notice, you will discovered that the price we are offering is far below standard price, this is enough for you to know that we are not after the rental fee but the absolute care for the property.
We will be serving for a long term and now our home is locked up now and presently we have found a new home here which we will be staying for a very long term which might last 5 years in (West Africa,Nigeria) and presently our lovely home is still available for rent for ($550)as first month rent and ($550)for deposit which includes the utilities

More so,Now that we on Retreat program over here.Please I want you to note that all we will want is a very honest and neat person,so i will solicit for your absolute understanding and maintenance of this home and want you to treat it as your own,i am with the keys and documents here with me which will be sent to any responsible and interested tenant through FedEx further more you have to undergo some processes before i could be willing and convince to let my home to any tenant. The money is not the main problem but i want you to keep it tidy always. I also want you to let me have trust in you as i have always stand on my word.

****RENT APPLICATION DETAILS****

Please if you are ready now to occupy the house kindly provide the information below for record purpose:

PLEASE TELL US ABOUT YOURSELF
Full Name______________________________________________ ____ Home Phone ( & nbsp; ) ________________________
Date of Birth_________________________________
Other Phone ( ) ___________________
Current Address_______________________________Apt#________ City__________________ State______ Zip________
Reasons for Leaving____________________________Rent $__________Phone ( ) ____________________________
Are you married____________________________
How many people will be living in the house____________________________
How many people will be living in the house____________________________
Do you have a pet____________________________
Do you have a car____________________________
Occupation____________________________
How soon can you have the deposit and rent payment sent to me_________________________
How soon do you want to receive the keys________________________________________
Move In Date____________________________
Your Family Pictures ____________________________


Looking forward to hear from you with all this details so that i can have it in my file in case of issuing the receipt for you and contacting you.Await your urgent reply so that we can discuss on how to get the document and the keys to you,please we are giving you all this base on trust and sincerity so I won't like you to disappoint us.

NB: You can go check the neighborhood and get back to me for further discussion.I have recently remove my home from the market cause my wife advice me not to sell it any longer,the sign post will be removed once i get any responsible tenant cause my agent is not around now,so you ignore the sign post cause i have stop dealing and contacting the Realtor for too much fees i pay trying to rip me off.It is available for a long term lease as we will be here for 5 years and also intend buying a new home on getting back to the states.


Rent:550
Deposit:550
Bedrooms: 2
Bathrooms: 1 full, 1 partial
Size: 1,024 sqft
Nice and love neighbourhood in a conductive location

Pet Allowed
Utilities included in the rent
Lease Terms :
A Year and More

Best Regards
Pastor Thomas Daniel and Family

YOU CAN REACH ME ON THE NUMBERS BELOW
+234-813-296-6030 or 011-234-813-296-6030










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"Being good in business is the most fascinating
kind of art. Making money is art and working is
art and good business is the best art."

-Andy Warhol ]]> The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum A. F Medic http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24136 <![CDATA["Canadian Military Heritage Museum"]]> http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24122&goto=newpost Sun, 08 Aug 2010 16:48:19 GMT My wife and I did our annual summer road trip. This time we went through Ontario, Canada. We stayed overnight in Brantford, knowing the museum was... My wife and I did our annual summer road trip. This time we went through Ontario, Canada. We stayed overnight in Brantford, knowing the museum was there. Brantford is a nice town, we had a meal of fresh perch and walleye that was great. The next morning we went to the museum. It covers the Canadian Military in conflict from the war of 1812 to the present. I was totally impressed. It is one of the best I've been too. I realy enjoyed the layout and displays. I took it all in and we were there for a few hours. The sacrifice of the Canadian Army in WW1 Vinny, France left me empty. I took the time to read the roll of Canadian casualties in Iraq and Afganistan, so sad.
The staff was great, I got to meet Richard Shaver the chairman of the museum, he is a great guy and took the time to guide us through the museum. I would recomend everyone finding their way up there and check it out. You won't be disapointed.....Frank

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]]> The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum frankderrico http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24122 Destroying old stock ammo http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24089&goto=newpost Sat, 07 Aug 2010 18:57:24 GMT My daughters boyfriend came in last night, he is in the army airborne and we were talking about guns and we got off on the subject of ammo. I don't know how but we got around to the subject of shelf life. well anyway he made this statement " Ammo will go bad in a year if you don't use it" I ask him where he got his information from and he said they destroy old ammo all the time, if its been kept longer than a year in storage. I was shocked about this. Does our military do this with un-used ammo. If it has been in storage for longer than a year. I have military surplus ammo from the 50's in 8mm Mauser that shoots as good as new. I could understand rotating stock and using the old for training ammo but to destroy it. :eek: as hard as commercial ammo has been to get and they are destroying old stock ammo. :mad:
Has anyone else heard about this. ]]> The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum sharps1863 http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24089 <![CDATA[Working Marlin's Model 60 Successfully]]> http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24031&goto=newpost Wed, 04 Aug 2010 17:50:36 GMT GunReports.com looks at Marlin's Model 60, a tube-fed semiautomatic .22 rimfire rifle, among the most popular on the market today. That model has sold nearly 3 million copies over a 30-year period. Like any product with such a long service record, this Marlin has undergone a number of revisions. The Model 60 has been offered in a variety of configurations and under several different names. The Marlin Model 60 is not a glamorous rifle, doesn't retail for a fortune, and gets used, abused, and neglected. Here's how to fix the major problems it has.

More... ]]> The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum Newsfeed Hound http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24031 <![CDATA[Bushmaster Patrolman's Carbine .223 Rem., $1230]]> http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24029&goto=newpost Wed, 04 Aug 2010 17:10:25 GMT Our Bushmaster Patrolman's Carbine was yet another interpretation of the flat-top AR. The base price of this model was $1230 including the Fiberite Six Position adjustable stock and A2 front sight. But we picked several options to bring it into spec with our other carbines. A 4 Rail Free-Floater Forend (YHM-9479) was in place plus an Ergo Sure Grip (ARG- KIT). With another Ergo Sure Grip clamped to the bottom forend rail (ARG-FWD), we thought we were seeing double.The forend grip could be placed anywhere along the bottom rail as long as it was far enough forward to clear the magazine. A large knob with a coin or screwdriver slot and knurled edges held the grip in place. With two pistol style grips in place, our stance took on a narrower profile. This would be especially advantageous when traveling down a hallway or taking cover in a tight space. The forend itself appeared to be fatter. This was because the rails were covered with slip-on Sure Grip rail covers featuring the Bushmaster logo, (SCH-6L). The rail covers created a smooth, rounded feel to the forend and increased its overall width by about 0.3 inches.

More... ]]> The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum Newsfeed Hound http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=24029 Any medal collectors with a Crimea medal roll http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=23995&goto=newpost Mon, 02 Aug 2010 07:59:00 GMT Am trying to find a crimea medal roll, as i,ve got a battered medal thet part of the surname is missing, it reads: P. Kei??? dont know if its 2 or 3... Am trying to find a crimea medal roll, as i,ve got a battered medal thet part of the surname is missing, it reads: P. Kei??? dont know if its 2 or 3 letters are missing also marked, 41 Reg which i think is the welsh regiment. ]]> The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum bigduke6 http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=23995 I have an artillery round... http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=23954&goto=newpost Sun, 01 Aug 2010 01:04:40 GMT I believe that it is an American 75mm HE round. It is inert. I am trying to find the maker. It has a B space Co. I do not believe the die struck... I believe that it is an American 75mm HE round. It is inert.
I am trying to find the maker. It has a B space Co. I do not believe the die struck the second letter. Anybody ever hear of a compnay like that?

I have tried the Internet but no luck. Thanks. ]]> The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum A. F Medic http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=23954 Ruger Hawkeye Tactical HM77VLEH 308 Win., $1172 http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=23888&goto=newpost Thu, 29 Jul 2010 04:00:36 GMT Tactical bolt-action rifles are pretty easy to spot. Typically, they utilize a composite stock with pronounced pistol grip, oversize bolt handle and... Tactical bolt-action rifles are pretty easy to spot. Typically, they utilize a composite stock with pronounced pistol grip, oversize bolt handle and fire from a heavy barrel. The military models are camouflage or earth tone in color, and the law-enforcement models are usually black. Accuracy, strength, and simplicity are key attributes.Can a tactical rifle serve as a hunting rifle? We're not saying one can't. It's just that a tactical rifle typically weighs more than a hunting model. The heavy barrel enhances the ability to maintain accuracy throughout repeat fire and excessive heat.

More... ]]> The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum Newsfeed Hound http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=23888 Gun Vises for Almost Nothing, with Complete Dimensions http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=23883&goto=newpost Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:20:39 GMT Every gunsmith needs a good vise, but not everyone has the money to buy one. Here are two you can build yourself, with updated dimensions for... Every gunsmith needs a good vise, but not everyone has the money to buy one. Here are two you can build yourself, with updated dimensions for components.

More... ]]> The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum Newsfeed Hound http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=23883 <![CDATA[Troubleshooting the H&K MP5]]> http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=23882&goto=newpost Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:50:09 GMT American police and other law-enforcement professionals are employing the H&K MP5 with increasing frequency for potentially or obviously dangerous encounters. It has replaced the shotgun in many patrol cars, the venerable lever action in prison guard towers, and is even found in the hands of U.S. Department of Agriculture rangers for varmint and predator control. A sound-suppressed version, the SD model, is sometimes fitted with telescopic sights and used as a short-range rifle to shoot out tires on suspects' vehicles prior to a raid.

More... ]]> The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum Newsfeed Hound http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=23882 Am I allowed to.... http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=23827&goto=newpost Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:53:20 GMT There is going to br a big gun collection auctioned off this weds. I have nothing to do with it in any way. It is in North East Pa. By Lake Erie. ... There is going to br a big gun collection auctioned off this weds. I have nothing to do with it in any way. It is in North East Pa. By Lake Erie.

Am I allowed to post the link or list of arms with serial numbers?. There is a huge lot of ammo in cans as well as loose bullets and reloading supplies. Thanks!! ]]> The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum A. F Medic http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=23827