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			<title>Browning Hi-Power WaA140</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 19:48:12 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi People. Can anybody sey me something about this gun,how many was made,how much can cost ... Gun is like new. 
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<div>Hi People. Can anybody sey me something about this gun,how many was made,how much can cost ... Gun is like new.<br />
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			<title>M1895 Nagant Revovler bug bit me too</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 06:23:19 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[A Gander Mountain opened up the other day and like a fool I went in. Needles to say I did not leave empty handed 
 
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<div>A Gander Mountain opened up the other day and like a fool I went in. Needles to say I did not leave empty handed<br />
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Arsenal rebuild with all matching numbers. I think some of the cosmolene I found was from the end of WW2. Nice weight to it. Think I'll fire it a few times then put it in the Mosin-Nagant rifle display case after I build it.</div>

 
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			<title><![CDATA[S&W Model 2]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 16:29:36 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I just got this Smith & Wesson Model 2 and thought I would show it off. Interestingly the Auction house listed it as serial number 14996, but to my...]]></description>
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<div>I just got this Smith &amp; Wesson Model 2 and thought I would show it off. Interestingly the Auction house listed it as serial number 14996, but to my eyes and as confirmed on the inside of the grip it looks to be 14986. Can anyone tell me its born on date? I sent for a factory letter, but that will take months.<br />
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			<title>Schofield mismatch</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 16:22:07 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[This is a shot in the dark and  should go in the ~Angel~'s forum, but there is no pistol thread, so Badger said I could post it in the regular forum....]]></description>
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<div>This is a shot in the dark and  should go in the ~Angel~'s forum, but there is no pistol thread, so Badger said I could post it in the regular forum. I have a first model S&amp;W Schofield revolver that appears to be a marriage of 2 different ones. All of the frame numbers match number 472 and all of the front end numbers, including the cylinder match 3974. This seems to be common based on the Schofields I see up for auction.  Any one happen to know where the real mates for either of these are?</div>

 
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			<title>Webley-Scott .455 1913 Navy Model Automatic Pistol</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2013 15:37:50 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Here for your viewing pleasure is my Webley-Scott .455 Model 1913 Mk 1 Navy automatic pistol serial number 1913. The numerous military acceptance,...</description>
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<div>Here for your viewing pleasure is my Webley-Scott .455 Model 1913 Mk 1 Navy automatic pistol serial number 1913. The numerous military acceptance, proof and property marks indicate it was placed into service in 1914.</div>


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			<title>Any nagant revolver experts?</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2013 03:01:06 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I have a 1939 tula, got the star with arrow thing stamped, right under that is a little square with a line in it stamped, trigger guard left side has...</description>
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<div>I have a 1939 tula, got the star with arrow thing stamped, right under that is a little square with a line in it stamped, trigger guard left side has a star with a 6 next to it, and in front of cylinder is what i assume is a serial number, XT864, right side is some funky symbols. Wondering if anyone knows about manufacturing runs, where they got shipped and where it may have seen service, etc.</div>

 
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			<title>Evaluating this AC43 P38</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 20 Apr 2013 00:24:04 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hello, 
 
I have been offered this AC43 P38 along with 2 correct period magazines, waffenamt marked (but not both 359 for Walther) and a soft shell...</description>
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<div>Hello,<br />
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I have been offered this AC43 P38 along with 2 correct period magazines, waffenamt marked (but not both 359 for Walther) and a soft shell holster. I am basically looking for your opinions and observations about the pistol in general, and regarding an approximate fair market value. All numbers on the pistol match, although the condition is not the best. How would you rate this  overall? I tried to get some good bore photos, I apologize for their quality. Thanks in advance for all of your help.</div>


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			<dc:creator>clarkmilitaria</dc:creator>
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			<title>Pawn shop find: Mauser Broomhandle</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 01:40:10 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Got this yesterday at a pawn shop that I drive by every day on the way to work. It is a few blocks from my office. I had checked them out in the past...</description>
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<div>Got this yesterday at a pawn shop that I drive by every day on the way to work. It is a few blocks from my office. I had checked them out in the past but they didn't sell guns. Yesterday I noticed they had a sign out saying that they were now selling guns. This C96 Red-9 broomhandle is all-matching and in excellent condition.<br />
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			During World War I, the Imperial German Army contracted with Mauser for 150,000 C96 pistols chambered in 9mm Parabellum to offset the slow production of the standard-issue Luger P08 pistol. This variant of the C96 was named the &quot;Red 9&quot;, after a large number &quot;9&quot; burned and painted in red into the grip panels, to warn the pistols' users not to load them with 7.63 mm ammunition by mistake. Of the 150,000 pistols commissioned, approximately 137,000 were delivered before the war ended.
			
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			<dc:creator>Milsurp Collector</dc:creator>
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			<title>Shooting 30 mauser out of my TT-33</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2013 20:15:37 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Here's a few videos of me shooting my Tokarev with 30 mausers rounds. For some reason I read Tokarev but I pronouced "TOK ar off".  Too much Canada...]]></description>
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<div>Here's a few videos of me shooting my Tokarev with 30 mausers rounds. For some reason I read Tokarev but I pronouced &quot;TOK ar off&quot;.  Too much Canada vs. Russia hockey as a kid eh.  <br />
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Sorry for the blantant self promotion of my utube vid but I want the first one break a thousand views :madsmile:<br />
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			<title>Luger with mismatched extractor</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2013 01:29:05 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hello, 
 
Bear with me as I know this is a very vague question. I plan on looking at a Luger tomorrow, dated 1941, accompanied by a holster. My...</description>
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<div>Hello,<br />
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Bear with me as I know this is a very vague question. I plan on looking at a Luger tomorrow, dated 1941, accompanied by a holster. My question is, if all serial numbers match except the extractor, what kind of a value detractor is that? In reference to collector value, that is. Assuming the pistol is about 95% blue, nothing else special about it like a rare maker etc. The asking price is $1200. I apologize for the vague nature of this thread, especially lacking photos for an evaluation, but this only came up today as a possible purchase and I have never dealt with Lugers before. I appreciate any information that you can give me!<br />
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Thanks.<br />
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P.S. As I stated I have little knowledge of Lugers, the seller likely has less. Is it a bad idea to purchase this if I have not had it stripped to check the various small serial numbered parts not visible when the pistol is assembled? I certainly would not be skilled enough to do that.</div>

 
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			<title>Tokarev magazines</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2013 16:10:55 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Are all Tokarev magazines interchangable except the YugoM57 magazines? 
Thanks 
Greg</description>
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<div>Are all Tokarev magazines interchangable except the YugoM57 magazines?<br />
Thanks<br />
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			<title>Polish Tokarev</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:05:19 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Picked this up from Classic Arms.  It is, with the exception of a few scratches, in ery good to excellent condition.  Do not know much about them but...</description>
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<div>Picked this up from Classic Arms.  It is, with the exception of a few scratches, in ery good to excellent condition.  Do not know much about them but it is dated 1952, and has a 11 in an elipse on the top of the slide.  Purchased one box of S&amp;B (ouch) but had ordered and received 500 new brass from Starline.  Can't wait to give it a run or two.</div>


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			<title>Enfield No 2 MK1 used by German police units?</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[*A friend is a registered collector of <a href="http://www.milsurps.com/'http://www.milsurps.com/content.php?r=123-germany\'bGermany"...]]></description>
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			<title>Colt Eley for Sale</title>
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			<description>I almost never see these for sale. This one looks particularly clean. I can think of several reasons to buy it #1 Its a Colt. #2 Its unique in that...</description>
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<div>I almost never see these for sale. This one looks particularly clean. I can think of several reasons to buy it #1 Its a Colt. #2 Its unique in that its US made for Britain. #3 It covers British WWI pistol none of which I have. In this condition it should only go up in value (not that I've ever sold anything). <br />
Opinions?    <a href="http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=332272432" target="_blank">WW1 Era Colt Eley in 455 Caliber, Original : Curios &amp; Relics at GunBroker.com<br /></a><br />
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			<title>Help ID Mystery Mag 9MM?</title>
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			<description>I am looking to identify this magazine.  9 MM fits well.  Has unusual spring that is a band, rivetted to the top right of the mag mouth. It is coiled...</description>
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<div>I am looking to identify this magazine.  9 MM fits well.  Has unusual spring that is a band, rivetted to the top right of the mag mouth. It is coiled below the follower, transverse to the  cartridge feed direction. Looks like the follower has a metal insert on the bottom for the spring to rotate against. A bit longer than the Browning HP pictured for comparison. Mystery mag on the top or left has two thin retainer slots. Nicely blued as if commercial. Could be smg as I have a longer one as well. Thanks for any help.</div>


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			<title>Need a 1911 Ballester Molina firing pin stop  Anyone got one?  Thank you  c-j</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 20:59:45 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Need a 1911 Ballester Molina firing pin stop 
 
Anyone got one? or know someone who does 
 
Thank you 
 
c-j</description>
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<div>Need a 1911 Ballester Molina firing pin stop<br />
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Anyone got one? or know someone who does<br />
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Thank you<br />
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			<title>1940 Enfield No.2 Mk.I* Revolver: Inspecting the Inspection</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2013 19:52:30 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Here's a revolver that apparently had extra scrutiny by the MoD during manufacture as many of it's components have the odd "'oo' in the broadarrow"...]]></description>
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<div>Here's a revolver that apparently had extra scrutiny by the MoD during manufacture as many of it's components have the odd &quot;'oo' in the broadarrow&quot; mark. Having never seen such a plethora of view marks all in one place before, it seemed worthy of a photo thread for your own examination:<br />
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<i>I liked it immediately and purchased it almost purely because of it's late type wooden grips.</i> <i>Additional pluses are the matched numbers and blued finish. </i><br />
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But then these little markings were observed:<br />
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In actual fact, they were misidentified at first as &quot;sales&quot; marks, but that didn't seem right as they seemed to be all over. So after arrivng home many hours later, it was discovered that they were additional inspection marks. Apparently used by the WD/MoD as spot check for production?<br />
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So, how deep into the works did the additional markings appear? The frame and barrel seem to be free of the &quot;o^o&quot; as do the springs (which mostly do have regular broadarrow marks) and screws (all free of any markings). Otherwise, the coverage appears fairly comprehensive:<br />
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Here's a group of small parts that were marked:<br />
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Even the cylinder stop/bolt was inspected. (It wasn't removed altogether to avoid having to chase the tiny coil spring down- never mind replacing it!)<br />
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There's plenty more. If interest warrants, more photos will be added. <br />
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Are there any of y'all that have similarly marked examples- either handgun or rifle?</div>

 
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			<title>All numbers matching 1917 .455 Webley missing something</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 16:57:43 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>This is my first of many posts I hope so hello to everyone and what a great site with a lot of knowledgeable people. 
 
I purchased this at auction...</description>
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<div>This is my first of many posts I hope so hello to everyone and what a great site with a lot of knowledgeable people.<br />
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I purchased this at auction for $361 but I missed an important detail. The front post is completely missing. It appears it may have been milled off. I am including the link for the auction so you can see those pictures until I figure out how to add pictures.<br />
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<a href="http://www.gunauction.com/buy/11735679" target="_blank">http://www.gunauction.com/buy/11735679</a><br />
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I purchased this gun because I wanted a collection to pay homage to those who fought at Ypres Salient in Flanders area of Belgium. The same day I also won a 1917 SSA shtle 111* to match a 1917 Vickers bayonet I have had for 25 years.<br />
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This pistol as stated above has all matching no., still .455 (thanks to this site for letting me know what to look for), everything seems to work, no import marks, bore is in very good shape, but does appear to have been reblued in the past (maybe).<br />
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So I have several questions and keep in mind I like to shoot guns (intended purpose) not stick them into a hermetically sealed safe and touch them with gloves (not intended purpose)<br />
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1) Is this a bubba'd (excellent mill work by the way) gun or was this done for a reason and there are other examples?<br />
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2) How should I refinish it depending on the above answer. If already not original and therefor not valuable as a collector, should I eliminate the pitting and refinish? If some original mod then what should I do about the pitting? I keep my guns clean and oiled so not used to pitting.<br />
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Thanks in advance for any assistance<br />
Dave</div>

 
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			<title>Sauer und Sohn 38H 7.65 cal pistol</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2013 17:51:56 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[My father came across a Sauer und Sohn 38H pistol.  after doing some research we found out that it's a variation 4, wartime produced nonmilitary...]]></description>
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<div>My father came across a Sauer und Sohn 38H pistol.  after doing some research we found out that it's a variation 4, wartime produced nonmilitary pistol.  After tearing it down, cleaning, and inspection we found the extractor to be bent and the incorrect magazine.  The extractor was straightened out and if the magazine is held in the fully seated position it will feed and fire correctly.  the grips that came on the pistol were clacked and in pieces.  I have ordered him some new manufactured grips, however I have not been able to find anyone that carries either new manufactured or vintage 8 round magazines in stock.  I did find a 15 round extended magazine, but would like to stick with the 8 rounders.<br />
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Here are a few pictures:<br />
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</font>Sorry about the sideways pictures.  I rotated them on photobucket but apparently that is only for viewing purposes and not for uploading to a website.</div>

 
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			<title>Pre WWI German Army C96</title>
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			<description>Does anyone know the number of C96 Mauser pistols purchased by the German pre WWI and how many were delivered to Sept 1914?</description>
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			<title>S/42 Luger found by mistake</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Last summer I went to Cape Cod with a buddy who was going to buy a .22 from an old guy in Truro.  He had said the guy had a Luger but wasn't...]]></description>
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<div>Last summer I went to Cape Cod with a buddy who was going to buy a .22 from an old guy in Truro.  He had said the guy had a Luger but wasn't interested in selling it. When we got there he had brought down a bunch of guns from the attic, they were all rusted from the salt air. There were two muskets that were toast an Arisaka sporter that had a light coat of rust on it <a href="http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=42584&amp;page=1" target="_blank">http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=42584&amp;page=1</a> . Then there was what looked like a P-38 holster, when I opened it there was the Luger. It had no rust on it, the holster must have helped.  It was in great shape, but with a broken grip.  Nice Nazi markings, but the slide is one number and the frame another, slide is 17 frame is 71.<br />
   I talked about how much the grip hurts the value and offered him $500 cash on the spot IF he would throw in the Arisaka. He hemmed and hawed, didn't really want to sell it but I turned on the charm and dropped 5 $100 bills on the table. Lucky for me he took it! :D<br />
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			<title>Need a little info on Luger pistol</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[I have a Luger pistol and it has these markings on the grip.  S.A.I. 1. 36.  It also has a 1917 stamp on it.  I've been told that this designates the...]]></description>
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<div>I have a Luger pistol and it has these markings on the grip.  S.A.I. 1. 36.  It also has a 1917 stamp on it.  I've been told that this designates the branch of service. Is that true and what do these letters mean?</div>

 
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			<title>WWII GI War Trophy: Walther PPK Question</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[First, thanks to everyone who provided a wealth of information to my questions re: the "Cogswell & Harrison" marked S&W revolver I purchased. 
 
I...]]></description>
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<div>First, thanks to everyone who provided a wealth of information to my questions re: the &quot;Cogswell &amp; Harrison&quot; marked S&amp;W revolver I purchased.<br />
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I now have a question on behalf of a friend. He inherited a Walther 7.65 caliber PPK that an uncle brought back from Europe at the end of WWII. The pistol has no Nazi markings, is blued, in good / very good condition, with the flap holster (has spare mag pouch, but no spare mag), and the US military form, signed by the commanding officer, authorizing the bearer to bring the pistol back to the states.<br />
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My friend has no other family members interested in this piece of history (I find that as bizarre and distressing as you undoubtedly do ...). He is seeking funds to purchase a more modern, full-sized 9mm pistol, and has no real use for the .32 Walther. So, he'd like to sell it, and has asked me to help determine a realistic asking price.<br />
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I checked some of the Internet sales &amp; auction sites, but can't really get a &quot;feel&quot; for a reasonable value. I have personally seen only a handful of documented WWII-associated Walther PPs/PPKs for sale at some gun shows, but have no idea if the prices I noted there were reasonable (I highly doubt they were, based on other, more familiar wares at those tables).  <br />
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If anyone can help, I figure it's the knowledgeable folks here. Any thoughts, ballpark figures or value ranges would be helpful.<br />
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Thanks in advance!</div>

 
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			<title>455 Eley for use in 455 Webley Mk VI</title>
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			<description>Just picked up a nice 1918 Webley along with some 1924 dated 455 Colt Eley rounds and about 50 empty casings in same. 
 
Can someone confirm or...</description>
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<div>Just picked up a nice 1918 Webley along with some 1924 dated 455 Colt Eley rounds and about 50 empty casings in same.<br />
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Can someone confirm or correct the following?<br />
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1. 455 Colt Eley is the blackpowder earlier version of the .455 round and ok to shoot in a Mk VI.<br />
2. If I want to reload the 455 Colt Eley cases I should trim them. They are .878inches long but 455 Webley load data shows max case length as .76 inches.<br />
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And finally - does anyone know a source to purchase 455 webley cast bullets in Canada?<br />
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Thanks,</div>

 
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			<description>I was able to looked at and take apart a Makarov pistol yesterday. I have never seen one like this in that there was no serial number or any ID as to...</description>
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<div>I was able to looked at and take apart a Makarov pistol yesterday. I have never seen one like this in that there was no serial number or any ID as to who what or where this pistol was made. All steel frame and slide with brown plastic grips with the star on both sides. Very worn blue finish. The only mark I did find was on the back strap under the grip. The letter T in a circle. other wise the whole pistol was sterile. Does anyone have any ideas about this Makarov? From what I was told it was a bring back from Viet Nam but without a serial number the possible sale of it is not going to happen.</div>

 
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			<title>Russian Nagant 1895 Chamber diameter question??</title>
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			<description>Hello Folks.. can someone out there spare a few minutes and Mic measure the inside diameter of there 1895 Nagant Cylinder ??? I know they take the...</description>
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<div>Hello Folks.. can someone out there spare a few minutes and Mic measure the inside diameter of there 1895 Nagant Cylinder ??? I know they take the 7.62 Nagant Cartridge ..but someone gave me 3 new boxes of 32 S&amp;W Longs and said they should fire in it.. and... all the forums also seem to agree... but when I insert a 32 S&amp;W cartridge in my cylinder there is excessive gap around the cartridge in any of the 7 openings..My chambers Mic at .355&quot;....the 32 S&amp;W ammo mics at .335&quot;... Is my cylinder just oversized?? My nagant looks almost unfired with mint barrel and bluing... Any help appreciated! Thanks!</div>

 
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			<description>My Walther will not close the slide after firing the preceding round. 
I have to finish pushing it shut to fire it. 
 
I took it apart, and the...</description>
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<div>My Walther will not close the slide after firing the preceding round.<br />
I have to finish pushing it shut to fire it.<br />
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I took it apart, and the recoil springs, are of unequal length [one is about 3/8 inch shorter than the other] and the longer one is twisted like a corkscrew.<br />
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Do I need new ones?  Silly question isn't it!!!!<br />
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Are new ones available here on the forum, or do I go to Numrich</div>

 
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			<description>Hey! 
The bugger just broke on me. Mine is a8mm  Type 14 Nambu Nagoya Arsenal Date code 19.2. 
Fired about 20 rds. and it shot great with original...</description>
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<div>Hey!<br />
The bugger just broke on me. Mine is a8mm  Type 14 Nambu Nagoya Arsenal Date code 19.2.<br />
Fired about 20 rds. and it shot great with original Midway ammo. Bought all the gear to reload my own from Huntington (RCBS)  and went out with mine loads and nothing (No mark on the primer). Did a take down and the tip of the firing pin is broke off. ANY LEADS ON WHERE I CAN GET A NEW ONE?? Sarco is sold out.<br />
Thanks,<br />
Carl L.   Please contact me via my email &lt;CLeising1@Comcast.net&gt;</div>

 
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			<title>New barrel for broomhandle?</title>
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			<description>Hello everyone, 
I just got a really great deal on a matching numbers bolo broomhandle c96.  The gun is in good shape except for the bore which has...</description>
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<div>Hello everyone,<br />
I just got a really great deal on a matching numbers bolo broomhandle c96.  The gun is in good shape except for the bore which has been corroded due to corrosive ammo.  I have heard of process of putting a sleeve in the barrel that makes the gun a decent shooter again.  I am not interested in having an every day range gun, but I would like something that is a little better than a smooth bore.  <br />
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Has anyone done this with their gun?  What does it do to the value of the firearm?  Has anyone got a suggestion for what company can put the sleeve in the gun?<br />
Thank you<br />
Jeff<br />
Clayton, DE</div>

 
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			<title>Royal Canadian Navy-marked Colt New Service</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 14:06:48 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Posting around details and pictures of my newly-acquired Colt New Service to find additional information and see examples held by others, as while I...</description>
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<div>Posting around details and pictures of my newly-acquired Colt New Service to find additional information and see examples held by others, as while I have to think other Canadian Navy utilized Colts (and other RCN firearms and militaria) are out there, my searching hasn't turned up too much. Here's what I have found, though.<br />
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Here's the Colt. Still in the original .455 Eley chambering. It's my first Colt.<br />
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S/N dates it to 1917 production.<br />
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Pistol features British acceptance proofs, Canadian C-broad arrow stamp, DCP proof stamps on the back of the cylinder and C-arrow-N markings; twice on the frame and once on the cylinder, which seems to indicate service with the Royal Canadian Navy.<br />
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<img src="http://www.milsurps.com/images/imported/2012/12/IMG_3228-1.jpg" border="0" alt="" /><br />
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While waiting for it to arrive, I did a little surfing online. <br />
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Clive Law, in his <i>Canadian Military Handguns 1855-1985 (pg. 43)</i> states “The Royal Canadian Navy, mostly because they fought as self-contained units within which pistols were considered low priority, were issued .455 cal. and .45 cal. pistols. These pistols were usually surplus left over from the First World War.” The markings on this revolver support that statement.<br />
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My revolver is also configured and marked just as <b><a href="http://www.warmuseum.ca/cwm/exhibitions/navy/objects_photos_search-e.aspx?section=4-C&amp;id=15&amp;page=0" target="_blank">this one</a></b> held by the Canadian War Museum .<br />
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The Museum entry states these revolvers were used by the British military in the Great War, they were transferred to the Canadian Army inter-war, and then used by the RCN in the Second World War. “The Royal Canadian Navy issued pistols like this Colt revolver to members of the Naval Police, guards, and personnel in boarding parties.”<br />
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The picture below, which can be found on the Canadian Military Police Museum (<b><a href="http://mpmuseum.org/index3.html" target="_blank">http://mpmuseum.org/index3.html</a></b>) shows what looks like what might be the big Colt crammed into a P37 holster. It could be a different revolver, though.<br />
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<img src="http://www.milsurps.com/images/imported/2012/12/RCNshorepatrol-1.jpg" border="0" alt="" /><br />
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Here’s another photo showing a Canadian sailor wielding a New Service. This from a great site I found about HMCS Prince Robert, a Canadian armed merchant cruiser/anti-aircraft escort on hand for the surrender of the Japanese in Hong Kong on VJ day, and which brought Canadian POWs back to Canada.  (<a href="http://www.hillmanweb.com/rcn/" target="_blank"><b><a href="http://www.hillmanweb.com/rcn/" target="_blank">http://www.hillmanweb.com/rcn/</a></b></a>)<br />
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The photo shows a member of the Prince Robert’s crew, James W. (Judd) Whittall, Colt in hand, accepting the the surrender of a Japanese soldier in Hong Kong.<br />
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<img src="http://www.milsurps.com/images/imported/2012/12/rgh12v12-1.jpg" border="0" alt="" /><br />
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By the way, the Canadian War Museum has an excellent Virtual Exhibition online carrying over from the Navy’s centennial in 2010. The link below will take you to a section in the exhibition that focuses on small arms used by the RCN. There are entries here ranging from Long Lees, through Ross rifles and Lanchester SMGs, to the FN C1D. Picture of all objects are zoomable for detail. It’s very cool. Click on the artifact record for more info as well.<br />
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<b><a href="http://www.warmuseum.ca/cwm/exhibitions/navy/objects_photos_search-e.aspx?section=4-C" target="_blank">http://www.warmuseum.ca/cwm/exhibiti...px?section=4-C</a></b><br />
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I'd love to see any photos of other RCN small arms held by folks here on the Board. And any other background on these would also be appreciated. Thanks.</div>

 
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