Hello...I bought a K31 Swiss Ricle and under close inspection I noticed it has a crack in the receiver, on the top...Can anyone tell me if this is dangerous to fire, how it might have happened or if anyone has seen anything like it before ?? Thanks a bunch I appreciate it !

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I apologize I forgot to include the pictures....

I bought this from Sportsman Guide last week and received it today no FFL. .. I am pleased. Now I have all of them....... Gary

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I was up at Cabela's last night mainly looking for rifles of which they had none of interest.

I usually walk through the reloading section and scan it for something I have and always come up empty except last night they had Swiss 7.5x55 dies for $35 which seemed reasonable. They also have Berdan decapping tools which weren't reasonable but no primers that I could find.

I was hoping I could reach out to the community and see if anyone knows where I can get a replacement K31 Magazine... Some how I broke the spring inside the mag, and lets face it... I cant find just the magazine's inside guts.... Anyone have any thoughts.

Hi,

I found this rifle from a private seller that wants $500 for it. It's probably the nicest example that I have seen. I believe the serial number puts it at 1953. The stock is not refinished and there are no gouges on the butt. Is this rifle worth the price? The metalwork and wood seem very good. There's no P on the serial number, any idea if this rifle was ex-police or unissued or anything like that?

I am posting some pictures of my 1869/71 by Ost-Schweizerische Buchsenmacher, St. Gallen. I have identified it at swissrifles.com. That site lists the end of 1869 production by that maker at 156xx and beginning of 1869/71 at 166xx. Mine at 15873 falls between. Also the swept back bolt handle seems different from most. Any enlightenment appreciated.

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I've got this thing for Swiss rifles, especially the late manufactured ones and especially the ones that have Swiss match stickers on them.

Today I got a K31 hat trick...late manufacture, Swiss match stickers and a Private series serial number






Description advised as follows

Swiss Schmidt-Rubin Karabiner Model 1931 (K31) Straight-Pull Rifle, #268285, 7.5x55mm Swiss, 25.7'' barrel, blue finish, European walnut stock, with sling. Import marked. Condition is fine to near excellent retaining approx. 95% blue on receiver. Stock shows minor dings, scratches, thinning to finish, and light oil staining. Action is crisp, bore is fine. Minor corrosion near rear sight should clean easily.

Many interesting items on display.
Guisan- Verein Schweizer Armeemuseum VSAM Pictures Photos by carlosdiaopter | Photobucket

I was at a match in NC last weekend. Shooting my first vintage rifle match. First I had a ball. didn't win the prize only because they didn't count having fun toward final score.
I shot my M1 Garand then shot a 1911 Schmidt-Rubin. There was another fellow on the line shooting a K31. Except his had a rear adjustable peep sight installed. Are these still available and adaptable to the 1911 version? He said his rifle came with that sight installed do did not know where it came from.
I really like shooting the straight pull and would consider more competition use if I could find a rear sight that would allow for precision adjust-ability.
I asked about legality for "vintage rifle" rules and he just shrugged. Said as long as it came on the rifle or was available to the troops all was good. To be honest I do not know what rules govern for CMP vintage rifle matches.

Does anybody know a good place to get some bricks of gp11 surplus ammo? I've been looking and haven't found anything.
thanks,
surpman

Anyone an idea what these markings on an G11 stock could mean?

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While looking in my local hunting shop for a bargin SMLE I came across a very odd looking rifle (I know very little about swiss rifles by the way) which I though was a bargin at NZ$530.00. Turned out that after much review and comparison with other rifles on the same rack, that I was probably missing a decimal point so the price was actually NZ$5300.00. Anyway, turns out its a ZfK55 with matching numbers and 'ammo tin' (but I think that's the scope container the seller is refering to). Are these rifles really worth that much? I take it they weren't produced in great numbers then?

Anyone bought one of these, I'm interested to know how bad the cracked stock is.

Nice visual guide to bullet shapes. Useful in the discussion about loading for K-11 vs K-31.

Tangent, Secant, Hybrid Ogive Bullets within AccurateShooter.com

I recently aquired a K31 as a shooter. It arrived from the seller in very nice condition, which seems to be the rule.

I've been reading up on the rifles, and have stripped the rifle to give it a once over, using several web pages specific to the Swiss rifles to identify some of the stamps and proof markings.

The rifle was built in 1942, the stock, handguard, bolt, magazine and receiver are all serial numbered the same. The barrel, however is marked with the normal proof marks one would expect but, I had read that the shoulder should contain the last 3 digits of the rifle's serial number. This one does not... it is marked with a 5 digit number, then the various proof marks (BP firing proof is about dead center at 12 o'clock with barrel installed). There are several digits that follow in a slightly different script... C G 1. At first I thought the 1 was a witness mark but it actually appears to be the number 1 instead. Any idea what these marks mean ? And, why would the barrel number be 5 digit and different from the rifle serial number? No K31 serial numbers consist of five digits. Replacement barrel ? Or was the marking info I read wrong ?

Mike

In a previous post ( K-31 bayonet bargin) I posted my first K-31 purchace. I was so impressed with the quality and workmanship in the first I could not help myself when I spotted three,yes three, at a gunshow this week end on the first table I visited. Not wanting to exaust all my funds before walking around I did so only to return and find two remaining so here is the newest addition to my Swiss family. Attachment 40568Attachment 40569Attachment 40570Attachment 40571
Serial number indicates 1947 production with a 1947 dated stock and troop tag. I certainly hope at least one troop tag informational search will yield some results.

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I thought this was interesting.

Milsurps Knowledge Library - 1941 Swiss Model 1931 Short Rifle (K31)
Reading this "1946, starting with serial number 868,901, beech rather than walnut was used for making the stocks."
I noticed that my K31 was close to that number, 44 below. Assuming that the factory ran 5 days a week, and that they made 15,900 k31's in 1946. They made an average of 60 rifles a day. That would mean that my rifle was made on the last day that walnut stocks were used. I am estimating this to be about April 9, 1946.

http://www.radix.net/~bbrown/schmidt_rubin.html

Anyone else have a rifle made on that day? Or on the first day of beech wood production?

Steve

I have a chance to buy a 1917- M96 MAUSER, IT IS IN excellent shape, stock looks good, the bore is nice and shinny, the rifling looks strong, what's a fair price to pay.

Added another cart before the horse or more precisely stated, bayonet before the rifle to my collection. Bayonet seems to be pristine save one small dent in one grip panel. $59 with free shipping from MIDWAY USA. It will be quite a task to find a K-31 or other Swiss rifle to match the condition of this one.

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Is there any interest in 100 yard Swiss rifle matches in the eastern PA, (USA) region? I ask as I have a chance to put forward the idea to my local CMP club and prior to making a formal proposal I would like to gauge the interest. The program would be fired at 300 meter targets scaled for 91.4 meters. The program would be identical to those conducted at the regular Swiss matches. Certain matches would have metals and certificates handed out according to the current Swiss scores, but these would not be actual Swiss sanctioned metals, just club level.

Preliminary work had been completed on targets that are correctly scaled relative to the real targets, have the correct colors and also have suitable bottom cutoff to allow for both 100 yard zero and 300 meter rifle zero. The matches would be run on the 4th Saturday of every month, after our regular CMP rifle matches. The course of fire would alternate between the Obligatory, field shoot and match shoot course of fire.

The cost would be moderate, on the order of 5~7 dollars for a regular match, depending on the cost of the targets (They need to be in color), scorebooks and metals/certificates. The club does not seek to make money off of the shoots, but is looking to offer another event that will bring together like minded shooters in an area currently not served by any clubs.

Our rifle club is located in Bucks County, PA just off of route 202. It is within an hour commute of most of New Jersey, northern Delaware and PA east of Reading PA. If anyone from PA or New Jersey would be interested in such a program let me know.

My sons and I shoot Swiss rifles in various competitions and have found that under certain lighting conditions (primarily having the sun low and behind us when we are shooting) the front sight is very hard to see.I was wondering if anyone has seen a front sight hood for the standard 1911 and/or K31 front sights?

Thought about adapting an existing front sight hood if no one makes one for the Swiss rifles...anyone seen or done that?

Whats the fair price for a good K31 or 1911?

Thanks

Anyone have any experience with company? Looks they have the 1911 I'm looking for.
Anyone done any business with them?

Is there such thing as M1911, I always thought they are K1911 long rifle and K1911 Carbine.

Anyone can give a comparison between two, what the major difference and Pro and Cons?
I'm looking for a K31 but its not currently available, I thinking about getting K1911 and later K31. I'm looking for a good shooter, is the age of K1911 a concern? they are all 90+ years old.