1943 Albion No2 MK1** value and question about the but disc

Hello

I have a 1943 Albion No2 MK1**

Dose the markings on the disc mean anything? I have seen a lot of pictures of No2 MK1** on the web but most of them have no markings on the disc.

What would be the value of this pistol. Out of of work need the cash. probably about 90% over all condition and it still has the lanyard ring, phosphate? finish. ( live in California USA)

Has this too:

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from another thread : I forgot to add but during the 60's, we used to file the top overhang of the left grip flat and polish it so that it was easier to get to and operate the barrel catch with your thumb - Peter Laidler

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Thank You!



https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../11/disc-1.jpg

(White stuff is grease)

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../enfield-1.jpg

Since I cant edit my original post heres a picture of the other side.

The white stuff is lithium grease that I have not cleaned yet

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...12/11/a2-1.jpg

The markings are simple the WD arrow and the AM - Albion Motors logo and nothing else. To be honest, and not being a dealer or trader of any sort, it's just another 'Enfield' revolver sub contracted out. I don't think that the value is very much at all. Maybe just the same as an old Enfield. It's certainly been un UK service by being modified as it is....... or if not UK, it was certainly modified by us because so far as I'm aware, no-one else modified the grips. We did hundreds and hundreds for the local Armies and Police

On that basis, I'd just keep it and enjoy it. And consider yourselves lucky that you can own one. In England, we can't own anything like it

You didn't mention to him Peter...he's missing the hinge screw that holds the gun together. I agree though, this one may be worth $100 or so. I wouldn't pay much for these in any condition.

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Originally Posted by browningautorifle

You didn't mention to him Peter...he's missing the hinge screw that holds the gun together. I agree though, this one may be worth $100 or so. I wouldn't pay much for these in any condition.

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Any chance a hinge pin screw from a Webley MK VI? would work. There seem to be dearth of hinge pin screws for Enfield No2 Mk1 revolvers.

They seem close enough for me, if the thread works. Peter would know for sure...he's the one that used to have to fix them!

Your Albion revolver is well worth repairing. Apex Gun Parts has the parts you require in stock, so check their net site.

As noted by Peter, the Mark III grips have been modified/updated likely in the 1950's. They were made by the firm of Fraser&Glass under a wartime contract and were the standard grip provided to and utilized by RSAF Enfield, Albion and Coventry Gauge & Tool beginning in 1942. The brass i.d. disc is correctly marked for an Enfield made variant as Albion made discs are marked with the Albion Motors "AM" symbol. No big deal--most Albions seem to have lost their original grips years ago during one overhaul or another.

As far as value estimations, let's get back into the real world. The Albion is a desireable variation of the Enfield No. Mark I** pattern revolvers, fetching a quick 250-400 dollars depending on the scarcity of the variation in question. A serious handgun collector I know has just liquidated the eight Albions he possessed and I saw the revolvers move briskly off his table for those prices. The entire lot was sold within two gunshows. It is certainly not a hundred dollar item. Matter of fact, I'd buy every single one I could find at that price and consider myself most fortunate indeed!

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Originally Posted by barbarossa

a quick 250-400 dollars

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Get yer checkbook out then...

As for the screws on the WEnfields/Albions. NO............ the Webley screws won't fit. The Enfield screws are all BA sizes so even if you can't get an original, you could make them easile - just as we had to do as apprentices!

Are you sure that Apex have all the spare parts Mark as I seem to get a lot of requests for strikers and odds and sods - such as landyard loops etc etc

Peter, I checked Apex before I sent my reply to this thread and they show they have the necessary parts for nwptrain's revolver. At least that's what they say on their website. They used to have quite an impressive stock of Enfield revolver parts a few years ago but it's thinning down now, unfortunately.

Also, as far as Enfield/Webley Mark IV part interchangeability, I THINK the only parts which will make a direct swap out are the lanyard ring assembly and the joint pin screws. At least that's what I remember. I have repaired many many of these revolvers over the years for my friends and acquaintances, totally self taught with a bit of help from the Brit repair manuals. The Enfield is a relatively simple revolver to fix and most unlikely to go wonky.

By the by, to clarify another minor point, the ".380 Enfield No.2 Revolver" book was written by Stamps & Skennerton and is carried as such in library reference collection cataloging worldwide. It's not the other way around, if you catch my drift.

Take care, amigo and have a great holiday season!

Jerald Stamps