Two Questions: Model 1903 Designation and Butt Plate Type for RIA 1903

Good afternoon. I have two questions for which I've tried to find existing threads, but wasn't successful.

The "aught 3" was designated the "United States rifle, caliber .30, Model 1903." By the time the Garand was adopted in 1936, the designation "U.S. rifle, caliber .30, M1" was used. I have seen some Army references which identify the Model 1903 as the "M1903," rather than spelling out the word Model; when was this shorthand adopted?

My second question relates to butt plates. I have a Model 1903 rifle which was manufactured at Rock Island Arsenal. The barrel is stamped 8-17 and I believe the receiver was manufactured in 1918 based on the serial number (258055). The butt plate is checkered; is this "correct" for the rifle? Or would the original butt plate have been smooth?

Thank you.
USMA 79

According to CS Ferris (Rock Island Rifle Model 1903), RIA provided smooth butt plates until 1910 when they began checking them. Checking continued until early in WW1 when butt plates were again made smooth. I suspect there was not a 'clean' change over date and either may have been delivered with your rifle --- so it could well be the butt plate that was original to your rifle.

TM 9-1270 dated 19 May 1942 refers to them as the M1903. An assumption would be that the "M" was adopted sometime after 1936.
Another interesting tidbit is the Remington M1903A3 is stamped on the receiver as the simply MODEL 03A3.

BEAR

I would say the serial number is more like late 1917 and a match to the barrel (or vice-versa).

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Originally Posted by Rick the Librarian

I would say the serial number is more like late 1917 and a match to the barrel (or vice-versa).

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Thought you were dead. :crying: Not sure how I'm feeling now.

You and yours stay safe & well. l:thup:

Rob257

Thank you all for the information.

USMA79

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Originally Posted by Mike Haas

Thought you were dead. :crying: Not sure how I'm feeling now.

You and yours stay safe & well. l:thup:

Rob257

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I'm doing fine ... just haven't been real active on the forums, of late. :)