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I just shared a list of what I thought a owner should have.
I'd like to read others thoughts to the scenario below:
You own 1 M1 Carbine you plan to shoot 3 - 4 times a month, say roughly 300 Rds a month.
What spare parts or tools would you suggest a owner should have on hand ?
Thx,
I would get spare springs for everything, a spare extractor and a spare firing pin. I would also get a spare extractor plunger, not because they go bad, but because those little devils have a horrible habit of disappearing when disassembling and reassembling the bolt. Also get a bolt tool. If there is one essential tool for working on a carbine, that is it. It is worth its weight in gold and that is no joke.
I'll wait for more replies then copy / paste the list I passed along.
Probably an over kill but I say:
Trigger spring tool, bolt tool, piston nut wrench, bifocals.
spare complete bolt
spare extractor w/plunger and spring
spare ejector w/spring
spare trigger spring.
more mags and ammo
The part that looks to take the most wear is the Firing pin. Look at the tip under a good loupe, some of them are a mess, chipped,dented, beat up. They were a troublesome part to make as well because of heat treatment issues.
The small springs: Small springs are fragile.
a good brand new GI slide spring.
Plungers for the above reasons.
Extractors break.
Sear/trigger spring because it is special.
Small springs can be made out of other springs, plungers could be hand made,
Good one Wayne,Quote:
Originally Posted by W5USMC
I didn't list my cheaters and wouldn't get anything done without mine.
Here's my list:
1- Extractor Plunger Tips
2- Extractor Springs
3- Extra Bolt Extractors
4- Ejectors springs and tips (late style best for Ejection pattern).
5- Extra Op Slide Spring (should measure 10 1/4" or tad longer)
6- Extra Mag Springs for 15 and 30
7- Extra Bolt that will head space.
8- Extra Bolt tool with extra bolt tool pawls. The Pawls are so easy to break. Best to have a
couple extra Pawls.
9- Extra Sear spring
10- Extra Safety to Mag catch spring and attached plungers
11- Extra Mag catch spring with attached plunger
12- Extra Frt sight Pin and Lead Key
13- 30 Rd Mag catch, if you decide or want to shoot 30 Rd mags
14- Extra Sear
15- Extra Hammer
16- Extra Firing Pin
17- Extra Op Slide
18- Extra Barrel band screw
19- Extra Barrel band spring
20- Trigger spring tool
21- Gas piston nut wrench
22- Extra trigger housing / Hammer / Trigger Pins
23- Head lamp
24- ECI Empty Chamber Flag
25- Good Books
26- Friends phone number to call for help
Pretty random, peeled from memory.
Anything to add ?
Ch-P777
Speaking to the choir here but for someone just starting out the old adage of two is one and one is none applies. Important in many of life's activities. Just like the aforementioned bifocals.
I think Orion-7 sold a "parts kit" that should cover all the breakable stuff. Never heard of a hammer or sear going bad. Bolts yes, extractor, plunger (easy to loose), action spring (shrinks), other springs (ditto). I figure if I break something, I have other toys to play with until I can get parts. In a TEWAWKI, all bets are off, get an AR15 and plenty of freeze dried food.
Dave
It is something simple but very important at least for me, but a good L-shaped brush so you can clean your chamber really good with the L-shaped handle being very easy to control the brush for cleaning. As we all know, a lot of carbine problems are caused by a dirty chamber
Have seen the notch on a M2 hammer where the sear slides in worn out on a Carbine often used in Fully Auto mode.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wineman
But haven't or don't recall others going bad, except seeing some run away from worn sear tip.
I never thought about Replacement parts for M2. But I don't get to have that much fun...... often.
Hard enough to feed what I have now.
Yes Painter, you did leave something important out....at least a couple of extra carbines! *LOL*
Well 300 rounds in one month is about what I shot in the last five years. He will probably see more wear and tear for sure if he keeps up that pace. Maybe should have two bolts then.
Dave
Jim,Quote:
Originally Posted by jimb16
I almost added that to the list.
Dave,Quote:
Originally Posted by Wineman
My Rifle club is 5 miles north of me as a crow flies, about 7 1/2 around the country block.
Seems every time I gear up to go shoot the Wife and 1 or 2 of her friends wants to go.
Amazing how they can shoot AND cackle along swapping recipes.
Or friends I wouldn't hear from otherwise invite themselves to go.
So I end up taking 3 - 4 carbines, but in these cases I do more mag packing and brass fetchin than shooting. And everyone's gone when it's time to clean the guns.
Been too cold for me this winter and haven't got out that much. And deep snow still hanging out so finding your brass is impossible.
Last few weeks I've been going Tuesday mornings shooting Rimfires mixed with a few centerfire Revolvers.
Usually have the whole range to myself at that time. Peaceful and No worries in collecting spent rimfire brass :thup:
Jump in the truck to knock the chill off.
I'm pretty well stocked but been searching out for .22LR. Mainly for a friend of the Wife's. I found and ordered 1000 rds last night. Ran me a total of $183.16, breaks down to .18 cents per round including ship and tax.
There is none at all on the counters anywhere near me.
Recently at Dicks Sporting goods, clerk standing behind 100% empty display cabinets. Said 2 weeks earlier Corporate pulled all guns, ammo. I think everything... I didn't see any targets, gun oil... nothing. As I left I knew I'd never be back to 2 full stories of sweatshirts and team logo junk.
Nearest Walmart is only carrying BB's and Pellets.
Dunhams had 4 or 5 boxes of 3 1/2" 10 gage steel shot. No other ammo but did have some guns and misc supplies.
Every online search I tried showed no powder (except pyrodex and triple 7) or primers. Except on GB, and Midway only had powder and primers for .50 cal BMG.
Fingers crossed production picks up....... :sos:
Safe Weekend All....
I haven't been in a Dicks store for two years, not even for golf balls. Time has come to do our own "Cancelling" with our wallets. The ammo situation seems worse than the last "situation" a few years ago. I heard that last year 6 million new gun owners bought their first firearms. That's a lot of boxes of 9mm and .22. No Ammo, No gun.
And Charlie: It's in the mid to high 70s here in Kalif. Wash your hands!
Dave
In my area even the Walmarts have dropped all firearms and ammo sales. Still some cleaning gear and other accessories. Big-5 is still in the game, but after shopping there you feel kind of soiled the way people look at you with a gun in your hand. All things will pass but the frequency of these events is troubling along with other factors. My guess is that when Covid-19 issues are not the roadblock they are today, we will get more stuff in the pipeline. My fear is that the pipe is getting smaller and the good old days are not coming back.
Dave
"Gone like a '59 Cadillac and ain't never comin' back." :sos: - BobQuote:
Originally Posted by Wineman
Yep, no fins for you. Loved the pointed tail light lenses, almost a Batmobile. My Neighbors had a black one, they don't make cars like that any more. That said cars today are different but so much better than 62 years ago.
Dave
Meant to comment on this when you made the post, but forgot. I've never heard of a lead sight key. Were those actually made? The only NOS one I ever had was from Chestnut Ridge and thought it was mild steel - sold it at a gun show and then learned they're now hard to find. I do have a couple used ones, but don't believe they're lead. One came from JimF, so I know it's genuine.Quote:
Originally Posted by painter777
This is entirely unrelated, but saw yesterday on the CC website (under parts) that the descriptive labels for the "Grand Rapids" TH illustrations have changed. The description for the "blue arrow" at the rear lug has been removed. I worked with Jim M. in the past (believe the arrow was white originally) when those "indents"were labeled as being for tooling alignment. I told him what they were, based on my experience with Carbines and even sent him pictures (before & after) of one that I had peened to tighten up a loose fit. I know Jim M. is very busy so didn't want to bother him about it. Do you know if the recent change was intentional, or maybe just lost accidentally in a page revision? Has Dan or Wayne said anything about it? Thanks! - Bob
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Looked at that TH page many times and never noticed that, forwarded to Dan to look into.Quote:
Originally Posted by USGI
Bob and Wayne, thank you for bringing it to our attention. In this case I believe the picture became corrupt and when fixed the text got covered.
Should look good now, if not hit f5 to refresh your page.
We do appreciate being notified of any errors. We do the best we can and have things proof read multiple times but inevitably we miss something. We appreciate the help.
Thanks all!
Best, Dan
The one spare part I think everybody needs is a hammer spring plunger. Most of the time I shoot it across the barn not to be found except with a large magnet. Then a extractor plunger as everybody says. They can fly too.
Although I've had the spring plunger fly a couple of times, I've never had a problem locating it. They usually make quite a racket when they hit! Makes it a lot easier to find!