Hi all,
So, new year, new gun project. Just doing a little research, is the gas system, i.e the gas tube, the same length as the much later M4?
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Hi all,
So, new year, new gun project. Just doing a little research, is the gas system, i.e the gas tube, the same length as the much later M4?
I am not 100% certain, but the gas tube was originally on the ten inch barrel on the XM177e1, barrel was extended to 11 1/2 inches, but the gas tube and front sight base
still remained at the original location. There might be some schematic drawings on the internet.
Many thanks Robert, I'm taking a deep dive into early AR variants with a project in mind, albeit a UK 'legally limited' one, much appreciated.Quote:
Originally Posted by RCS
Will it be .22WMR John, so as to at least make it function more like an original? :)
So this one will have a kit like a CMMG or some sort to function? The gas for the shorties was all the same until the advent of the REAL shorties. An XM177 will have the same handguards as the CAR15 unless you're building the really early one with the undecided right/left triangular handguards. Gas tube is the same. Usually we blind the gas port in the sight off and use a pin about an inch long to hold the front handguard ring in place. I'm thinking you have to be using a barrel with no gas port?Quote:
Originally Posted by mrclark303
Finding a magazine for the 22 WRM cartridge should not be that difficult as both Ruger and Marlin example s could be found -
I did make a set of triangular hand guards years ago and liked them
photo from "The Black Rifle "Attachment 134862
My attempt at an XM177E2. Pined and welted extension and yes, I have installed the proper grip after finding a good one. Grenade is inert.
Here's what I have: The lower is a 40 year old SGW 'Stop sign" with a very low serial number.
Cheers Jim, it's going to be chambered in .22 Win Mag. I'm thinking of adding a faux gas tube just to give it correct look.Quote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
Cheers Jim, my rifle will chambered in Win Mag, I m thinking of fitting a faux gas tube, just to get the right look.Quote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
Figured that...the .22 cals don't need gas anyway, as they blowback.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrclark303
There was a pistol submachine gun in 22 WMR with a 30 rd magazine manufactured in Argentinia called the EDDA
Nice grouping I think you one upped me on the accessories at least. Is that an SOG beret? What model Woodsman's pal is that? Unusual handle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sapper740
I have a substantial Vietnam War Advisor/Leg/Airborne/SOG/MAAG/Viet Minh/LLDB/CIDG/Cong/NVA/Khmer Serei collection from my 5th SF reenactment days. You have a good eye to pick out the odd shaped handle on the Woodsman's pal, it was damaged at some point in its career and a large piece snapped off. The beret is a repop 5th SF. The PRC 25 still works and I was lucky to get four 257477BA battery adapters from PRC68.com while he was still making them so I can run my PRC 25's on 10 D cells.Quote:
Originally Posted by HOOKED ON HISTORY
The early ones were leather...we still had those with wood handles on issue when I had Reconnaissance Pl in the 3rd Bn in '89/'90. I swiped one and had a leather scabbard made as the canvas is pretty feeble. It's long gone to someone that needed it much more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sapper740
I have a couple (one pristine). Looks to be a useful tool.Quote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
Those look nice. Mine had wood too I think. It was new out of our supply system and no one knew what it was. It stayed in stores while the "Ontario" machetes went out. I remember also sharpening the long edge right out to the tip.Quote:
Originally Posted by HOOKED ON HISTORY
Woodsman's pal still has replacement leather disks.
Hi Mr Clarke. how are you getting on with the XM177E2 build? I too am more interested in old school AR15 / M16 variants and I am looking for someone in the UK who can build a similar style AR15 / M4 carbine in 22lr. Can you recommend anybody?
Hi John,
As per my pm mate, I would personally avoid a certain AR dealer in the 'North West', not a great experience there a few years back.
I personally think the AR builder of choice is Rob from Guncraft, for parts and builds, I've only ever heard good things about Rob and his build quality is absolutely first class, I had the pleasure of trying one of his builds chambered in .30 Blackout at my local range and it was lovely...
Hi John,
Thanks, I will check out Guncraft and let you know how I get on.
I would second John's recommendation. I've only used Rob for parts so far, a really helpful guy.