What would you pick if your buddy offered one rifle out of this collection?
1) Pristine 6-digit Garand all original
2) CMP Six million NM Garand Rifle all correct
3) A.F.P.G. with a mismatched butt stock
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What would you pick if your buddy offered one rifle out of this collection?
1) Pristine 6-digit Garand all original
2) CMP Six million NM Garand Rifle all correct
3) A.F.P.G. with a mismatched butt stock
That's easy. (3). I don't have to feel bad destroying value tuning up performance to perfection!
I have no use for "pristine", and I don't think "correct" really means anything, unless its one of those rare few that never made it in to service in which case I equally have no use for it.
A Thank You card for a GOOD BUDDY!
Later 42rocker
But that was times gone by here in Canada. The rest were all available, but now none are safe so I'd have to respectfully decline all...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Rochester
The WW2 rifle *if* it truly passes the eyeball test for originality. Don't forget the follower rod.
So many things...solid upper band pin, maybe front sight screw seal and so on...so many things.Quote:
Originally Posted by togor
Can I get #1 for less than a thousand?
I was always a collector, so the original 6-digit rings my bell. Bet it's a Brit LL.
1. I'm immediately skeptical when anyone says "all original" about a Garand, especially one that is "available." I find the definitions vary when pressed for details.
2. "Correct grade" is just a marketing term. It's nothing you can't do yourself with a few buddies swapping parts. Yeah, it's kinda cool if you care, though, and if it comes with the CMP tag, it helps resale value for your heirs.
3. I thought myself better than average in rifle knowledge and have no idea what an AFPG is.
Yes...Quote:
Originally Posted by MAC702
Air Force Premium Grade. Built to be 1/2 MOA National Match rifles.Quote:
Originally Posted by MAC702
Air Force Premium Grade. Essentially the AF National Match, usually built at Lackland AFB. CMP got a bunch of them back in 2012 and we wrote them up in the GCA Journal.Attachment 135929 The barrels are hand stamped AFPG.
The issue was Summer 2012, lots of great details on this variation. One I always thought was cool was the stock marking: last four serial digits, the date built, and one to five punch marks in the channel that we speculated identified the armorer.
Attachment 135942
[QUOTE=MAC702;537972]1. I'm immediately skeptical when anyone says "all original" about a Garand, especially one that is "available." I find the definitions vary when pressed for details.
2. "Correct grade" is just a marketing term. It's nothing you can't do yourself with a few buddies swapping parts. Yeah, it's kinda cool if you care, though, and if it comes with the CMP tag, it helps resale value for your heirs.
Maybe Correct is not the best term to use - how would you describe a rifle restored to a configuration that is consistent with how it left the factory?
This rifle originally had a bad op-rod and was sent back to CMP on its return it had an NM Op-rod and NM gas cylinder - Barrel was NM marked when purchased
I’d pick all three, because I didn’t understand what no.s 2 and 3 are in detail, so, not to miss anything good, I’d just go for a big grab!
Didn't think of that. Outstanding plan!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ovidio
I think "correct grade" is an acceptable term for it. It's just not all that big a deal unless you're building a gas trap or something early and unusual.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Rochester
Collector Grade is valuable to those who want to collect "As manufactured." CMP often has the correct parts and can simulate originality by putting on the right ones. You can do it yourself with a lot of searching and expense or let them do it for you.