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Massive drone swarm with cruise missiles supposedly on it's way from Iran to Israel. Drones have proven to be rather difficult to deal with, at least by the Russians. Will our tech do any better?
Could take hours to arrive, going through Iraq airspace.
Biden's loading up the C 17's with cash as we speak.
First wave has apparently hit with minimal damage. Drones could take 9 hours to get there. The US and Jordan have already been identified as shooting down drones. Israels Iron Dome taking out missiles. One known casualty, 10 year old hit by falling debris.
Second wave hit an Israeli airbase in the Negev desert. No word on casualties but heavy damage to the base. Israel vows to reply in kind. Not looking good.
Israel can't and won't ignore such an attack to their country. I would like to know what Vladimir Putin, Ebrahim Raisi and Xi Jinping discussed last December when they met in the Kremlin. I'm pretty sure they weren't talking about golf or grandkids.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aragorn243
I know this is politics. The conflict started by Hamas is escalating almost out of control. It will be interesting to see Israel's response, and then Iran, and then allies, etc.
Let's keep this out of political territory per the forum rules, please.
Bob
The good news with this is that they supposedly shot down 99% of the attack. Makes you wonder why the Russians are having so much difficulty. It seems apparent that their technology is NOT as good as they pretend.
But then again, Iran's could just be that bad.
I would think they would get their ordnance from old russia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aragorn243
Probably China and North Korea for some time now. Russia was broke for a long period.
I was supposed to land in Tel Aviv on October 9th. Had to postpone.
Was there in February and will go back in a couple weeks the latest.
The situation looks as calm as usual, only in Be'ersheva you hear the jets flying high to give immediate support to the troops. Always there, no interruptions.
What I noticed was that the mood among the population is quite low. There is also an incredulity about the behaviour of the western world.
But that would lead to mined territory. I'll skip that.
It is quite impressing how everything still keeps going on though, and you don't see a single soldier on the street, other than the usual ones who go back home or to their units, as always is.
I was very lucky when I was deployed to Camp Zuoani in the Golan Heights as part of the Canadian contingent to UNDOF in 1998 to be there during a time of relative peace between Israel and its neighbors. With no Intifada or war I was given virtually unfettered access to most of Israel except Jericho, Gaza, and, of course Dimona. I took advantage of my time off duty to travel throughout Israel, Syria, Jordan, and a little bit of Lebanon and Egypt. One thing I found with the Israelis is that they despise the U.N. and for good reason since the U.N. Security Council had become nothing but a forum for despots and dictators to fully express their anti-Semitic feelings. I was told by the Israeli soldiers and civilians that amongst themselves they called U.N. members 'Unwanted Nobodies'. My step-mother is an expat Israeli and through my extended step family have family members still in Israel so I get a lot of my news of Israel unfiltered by the press. The country is torn between calling a ceasefire and negotiating with HAMAS to get the remaining hostages returned quickly or finishing the job of destroying HAMAS. My extended family believes that since doctors would never excise half a tumor that the IDF shouldn't either.
My Stepbrother and his family in Ontario and I were in the initial stages of planning a trip to Israel so I could meet the rest of my extended family but unfortunately that has been delayed indefinitely.
Syria is the only place I have never been in that area. No opportunities…
I love Lebanon and Israel. Like Jordan, but in the last 15 years it really deteriorated a lot, almost like Egypt.
All in all, people could live much better in that corner of the world.
Don't forget to pack your flak jacket and kevlar helmet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ovidio
If you're planning a visit to Tehran as well while you're in that part of the world you probably want, for self preservation reasons, a hotel below ground level, something like a nuclear bomb-proof bunker.
Closest I've been is Saudi Arabia. Not my favorite place.
Something very fishy going on. I found it weird that drones/missles were launched from Iran as well as proxies in Yemen, but none were launched from the better armed proxies in Lebanon or Syria right next door. If they actually wanted to hit targets, giving .5-1 hour or more warning instead of seconds is not very smart. The whole thing smells off - like Iran had no intentions of actually hitting anything.
I wondered about that myself. Arabs have a propensity to let their rhetoric and bluster paint themselves into a corner where they absolutely have to do something or be seen as a coward and a traitor to the Arab world. Nasser found that out the hard way in 1967. The Iranian mullahs probably prayed that all missiles and drones be shot down lest they really pi$$ Israel off. Now they can can placate the mob by saying they struck a great blow against the Little Satan without having to worry about an Israeli Have Nap giving them a permanent dirt nap.Quote:
Originally Posted by ssgross
It smells fishy alright. It is looking like this attack was allowed so long as it was kept minor or ineffective.
One theory about the nearby proxies is that they could be hit immediately and hard. While all the rest require crossing other airspace so they are "safe".
Pray for Israel. Pray for America.
I really wanted to say as much, but tried to keep our rules in mind. Now that you've let the cat outta the bag...given the reports I've seen coming out of Turkey, which I'm sure is what you are referencing, "allowed" might not be the best word. "Approved" or even "condoned" might fit the circumstances better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aragorn243
Am Yisrael Chai!
I fully anticipate that Israel will hit Iran back hard and it is just a question of when.
I'm hearing within three days. One or two of them are already past.
Done...
No, probably just getting started.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ovidio
I‘ll know better from May 15th. Just bought the ticket ;)
Good luck! Any travel restrictions expected? No trips to Kiryat Shemona or Nahariyya?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ovidio
I’ll go to Sderot, Tel Aviv and Be’ersheva. No restrictions, though Be’er is close to the “troubles”.
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Originally Posted by Sapper740
a Jewish solidarity anthem and a widely used expression of Jewish peoplehood and an affirmation of the continuity of the Jewish people.
Absolutely
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Safe travels.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ovidio
If you have the time and ability, be sure to visit Makhtesh Ramon if you haven't already. It's about 50 miles from Be'er Sheba and quite the sight!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ovidio
Well... about to leave the Holy Land again.
All quiet, a bit more life on the streets and the usual kids in uniform going to and fro their units, still surprisingly "normal".
I have another guy with me, from another company. He kept freaking out at any loud noise in the first 24 hours here, until convinced that it was not the case.
Yesterday we had lunch in Ramla. Two Christian schools full of Israeli Arab pupils and a church side-by-side with a mosque. Christian and Muslim Israeli Arabs and Jewish Israeli all together at the restaurant, run by an Israeli Christian family. Friends with everybody.
Not what you see in the news.
I know it, but my "colleague" is still completely flabbergasted.
Traveling on your own helps!
Next time, I'll go see Makhtesh Ramon. No time on this trip.
The boot lickers in the most of press aren't there to report the news, they are there to regurgitate the Left's talking points. The Druze Arabs that populate much of Northern Israel and the Golan Heights are happy, content, and prosperous. The Israeli government respects their religion and even goes so far as to guarantee an appropriate number of seats in the Knesset. Compare that as to how other religions and lifestyles are treated in some of the other Arab countries, yet Israel is the bad guy? The world has gone insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ovidio
We got “cherry picked” for an hour long security interrogation. Very interesting. They even checked mail traffic, restaurant slips, order confirmations…
My friend was really spooked:lol::lol::lol:
Now we’re having a draft beer to cool down.
Only 1 hour? You got off easy. When I drove my U.N. marked vehicle from Aqaba into Eilat they kept me in a waiting room for 3 1/2 hours while they disassembled my vehicle. I got to hand it to them, it ran better after I got it back! LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ovidio
We only had underwear, a cellphone and a pc each. Guess that, making the correct proportions, one hour was enough:madsmile: