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Cast Bullets for Military surplus Rifles
I have been a gun collector for a long time. I never thought of collecting surplus rifles, until I found an article in G&A Surplus Magazine called Slingin' Lead, by Daniel C. Chamberlain. Cast bullets for surplus rifles. That got the ball rolling. I now have a Lee melting pot, Lyman 314299 mould, Lyman lube sizer, and a bunch of wheel weights. I now use moly lube to coat the bullets. The article shows how you can get into castin bullets at very low cost. I went a little over board. I now have 2 lee Enfields #4 & 2a, Russian 91/30, Russian 44, and SKS. I very,very, highly recommend this. It's cheap to do and you cannot believe the accuracy. And you will never wear the barrel's out. Now I am collecting surplus rifles. I will need another gun safe.
Cast Bullets in Military Rifles
Cast bullets can be used quite successfully in Military rifles. It is better to use a round nose design with a lot of bearing surface, rather than a Spitzer type of bullet.
As mentioned, wheel weights are not really good the way they are, and shouyld be alloyed with lead to give a softer mixture. Get a copy of Lyman's "Cast Bullet Handbook" and read up on lead bullets. Proper safety precautions should be followed to avoid burns and breathing in lead fumes, along with safety glasses.
Some bullte moulds are designed for gas checks. I prefer the Hornady crimp on type. If you keep your velocities under 2000 fps, then you should not get barrel leading provided a good lubricant is used.
During the 1960s, C.E. Harris of the NRA Staff did a lot of experimenting with cast bullets. For most Military rifles, he used what he called "The Load". This is 13.0 grains of Red Dot Shotgun Powder with an appropriate weight bullet. In the case of the .303 British, the heavier bullets above 150 grains work well. It can be used for 30-06, .308, 8mm Mauser, 7x57 Mauser and many other Military rifles.
There are also so many variables in shooting Cast Bullets that it makes the average reloader using store bought components look like they are in Grade One and just learning.
And then there are paper patched bullets, where your earn your Graduate Degree. (Yes, the Swiss in the late 1800s used paper patched bullets in the Schmidt-Rubin rifle.)
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Airgun pellets? - Worth investigating
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Originally Posted by
villiers
How about air rifle pellets? (can get loads from the club).
That is an interesting idea. That would be using an alloy with some consistency. I suggest you ask Haendler & Natermannn about the typical hardness of airgun pellets.
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Patrick
BPCRs require softer lead than misurps from the nitro era
Just a bit of clarification to help Patrick Villiers in particular:
I know that many people are happy to cast wheelwight material, and even harden it, and it max go well in their nitro-fuelled milsurps. But Patrick's latest reloading problem was with the Werder Carbine of around 1867. Such ancient BPCRs are metallurgically equivalent to the percussion muzzle-loaders they replaced, and have deep grooves intended for lead bullets. Jacketed bullets came much later, with nitrocellulose powders, when it was found that lead bullets caused bad fouling/leading at the previously impossible high muzzle velocities achieved with nitro powdes.
The metallurgy and groove depths of something like a Werder are thus not suitable for the much higher pressures generated by ramming a jacketed (or hard cast wheelweight) bullet of groove diameter down a barrel. The grooves are so deep that the gun has no chance of squeezing the metal down to bore diameter at acceptable pressure levels. Black powder rifles of that vintage should be fed with bullets having a Brinell hardness of no more than 15, unless you want to simulate proof loads with every shot.
So be careful guys! It's horses for courses, and there is no "One hardness fits all" solution.
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Patrick