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Colt's Double Action Revolver, Model of 1909, .45 cal.
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Very nice. I always wanted one of those big guns.
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Here's Mine.I still need to get some of that period ammo.https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...DSC05926-1.jpg
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Jughead, yours seems to have a somewhat higher degree of polish, more like a commercial model. Is it an early example? Mine's more of a matte finish, not bead blasted, but looks a traditional rust blue that isn't typical of of Colt's.
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Originally all the Model 1909 revolvers had the high polish charcoal blue finish, with the trigger, hammer, and grip screw being fire blued. The finish was the type used on the commercial Colts of the period, and the first of the Model of 1911 pistols had the same mirror finish. The military objected to the highly reflective finish of the Model 1911, and a more subdued finish was then used.
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While not mint, this is an excellent example of the Model 1909 Revolver. Not a very good picture as the reflections are hard to deal with, but gives you some idea of the type of finish used. This one is in the 35,000 serial number range, and was shipped to Manila in the Philippines on November 24, 1909.
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...3/swu7wi-1.jpg
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Much easier to see the Colt's emblem on the example above. Mine's about invisible.
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OK, maybe I'm just too tired to see straight. Apart from the grips, it looks astonishingly like my Colt New Service. :dunno:What are the differences?
:wave:
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Love the eagle snap belt and rig Jughead.
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It looks like a New Service because that's what it is. While waiting on the adoption of the new military pistol, Ordnance ordered something over 19,500 of the big revolvers from Colt. Other than the grips and butt markings they are the same, and serial numbered in the New Service range.
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...3/s4ayjk-1.jpg
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They are not EXACTLY the same as a New Service .45Colt Commercial revolver. There are 4 differences I'm aware of.
1.Smooth Walnut grips instead of black bakelite commercial standard grips.
2. Chambered for a cartridge that is not REALLY .45Colt, but that will allow .45Colt ammo to be used in revolver (1909 .45 cartridge has much bigger rim than .45Colt)
3. Ejector rod has 3 knureled sections instead of standard 2 sections.
4. Lanyard ring on butt of 1909 Revolver.
I bought one fairly inexpensively maybe 8 years ago because some-one had poached the special grips and ejector rod, and substituted standard commercial parts. At least it was a complete functioning revolver, w/ maybe 50% finish, with mottling, but a bright clean bore. It had been unsold at a pawn shop for at least 3 years before I finally was made an offer by the pawn shop maanager that I was ready to pay for.
They are really neat revolvers.
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Originally Posted by
sfoster
They are not EXACTLY the same as a New Service .45Colt Commercial revolver. There are 4 differences I'm aware of.
1.Smooth Walnut grips instead of black bakelite commercial standard grips.
2. Chambered for a cartridge that is not REALLY .45Colt, but that will allow .45Colt ammo to be used in revolver (1909 .45 cartridge has much bigger rim than .45Colt)
3. Ejector rod has 3 knureled sections instead of standard 2 sections.
4. Lanyard ring on butt of 1909 Revolver.
I bought one fairly inexpensively maybe 8 years ago because some-one had poached the special grips and ejector rod, and substituted standard commercial parts. At least it was a complete functioning revolver, w/ maybe 50% finish, with mottling, but a bright clean bore. It had been unsold at a pawn shop for at least 3 years before I finally was made an offer by the pawn shop maanager that I was ready to pay for.
They are really neat revolvers.
Where in my post does it say EXACTLY? I said it was a New Service and that is what it is.
1. If you know anything about the Colt New Service you know that it could be ordered with most any type of grip you wanted, and the military wanted smooth walnut.
2. The pistol is chambered for the .45 Colt, and is exactly like any other New Service in that chambering. The military cartridge with the larger rim was different, not the pistol.
3. There were several variations of the ejector rod head, as the early models weren't even knurled. Several improvements were brought out in the 1905 to 1909 period, and the Model 1909 had these.
4. The lanyard ring was a standard option on all the New Service pistols except the target models, meaning that it could be ordered on any New Service except as noted.
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i will post my M1909 as i did not see the previous posts and didnt add to those , my late 38LC M1903 , and its replacement the M1909
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...ifles016-1.jpg
its interim replacement M1917 , mines a S&W 45auto or 45autorim ,
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...ifles015-1.jpg
the victory 38spcl seemed a step back but i suspect it was thought the pilots that carried them would not need more than that ,
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...ifles155-1.jpg