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I recently bought an 1891 argentine mauser from a pawn shop. It looks like it is in one of the 50's montgomery ward sporter stocks. The barrel is original length with the step off for the bayonet and the crown is still in great condition. I am looking to restore this rifle to original condition, where can I get a quality original stock?
http://ssporters.com/ doesn't have them
numrichs doesn't either.
Any help would be great!
I have an 1891 Engineers carbine with Argentine crest, original (dinged up) stock and all matching serial numbers and a two year supply of ammo. Try Actions Available. This is Richards Microfit web site ,they claim to be able to reproduce 1891 Argentine stocks from their pattern. Good luck. I will contact them also as I want to keep the stock I have in (original collectors condition)
Thanks for the tip! How is the fit and finish with their 99% press fit stocks? Do you know what they used to finish their stocks? BLO or tung oil?
No luck at richards at getting a reproduction original. Will a 93/95 mauser stock fit the argentine 91? They look similar with the high slightly triangular comb and squared off forend.
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Originally Posted by warriflefan
Not really.
Without actually dismantling my examples to check, the situation is approximately like this:
The M1891 has a single-column magazine, with a hinged floorplate. The M1893/5 has the later double-column enclosed magazine, with a snap-in floorplate. The means that the floorplate is longer and wider - so the cut-out is too large for the 1891 trigger guard and floorplate, and the trigger guard screw is in the wrong position.
The cut-out for the boss that takes the front trigger guard screw will also be totally wrong, and if this is not corrected, you will have a system with the recoil being taken entirely by the rear screw, and this will soon crack the stock behind the tang. The recoil bolt on the 1893/5 is also in the wrong place. All this can be altered if you are Claven2, but if you are a beginner in this type of woodwork, you are likely to end up with a scrap stock.
So the system may sort-of drop in, but there is will be a sizeable gap around the magazine, and no place for the front trigger guard screw. You would need to do some "cut and paste" operations with scrap walnut to adjust it. But easier, I thínk, than the other way around.
I would recommend that you get hold of an 1893/5 stock as a loan, see how the 1891 receiver fits, and decide whether you feel like doing the wood filling. If you do, then buy the stock and read the contributions by Claven2 on the subject of stock repair. I am sure that, if it is done well, hardly anyone will notice, as the fill-in is all on the underneath side of the stock. And the buttplate has a slightly different angle and the comb has a slightly different curve. But once again, if you don't tell anyone, the vast majority will never notice.
Patrick
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I have just taken a look at photos of the different actions.
The recoil lug on the 1891 receivers is much further back than on the 1893/1895 receivers. Unless Claven 2 knows how to do this, this looks like the problem that invalidates the whole idea. The recoil lug bears (I think) on an inlet plate (on later models, the recoil bolt) that has to be very well fitted AND have strong material behind.
Sorry, I don't think it's feasible.:thdown:
Patrick
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Thanks for the info Patrick. Luckily I just found one at liberty tree collectors (it wasn't on the website but they had one in stock). I'll try to post some pics once I have it all put together!
Glad to hear it, if it doesn't work out contact me I have one I took off one of my argentine 91 mauser.
There is a company in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin selling 1891 rifles and carbines with stripped bolts... they have been advertising in Shotgun News lately. They are now also selling parts... and I assume they may also be willing to sell a stock if you call them. Recon Ordnance
I would hit all of the big gunshows and ask everybody. You will find one yet. Just hang on.
I work for Jerry at Recon Ordnance, yes we have the stocks but all require some level of repair.
Kevin