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I have owned my 91/28 TS carbine for over 40 years. They are a very good shooting carbine once you figure them out. First the lands in the barrel measure out to .268 instead of the normal .264. Some of the imported rifles were shortened by the importer cutting off the last part of the gain twist. and the Italian sight picture was really way off. They sighted the top of the front sight with the bottom of the V-notch. And the battle sight was set at 300 yds for the early models, later changed to 200. If you use the Horneday ammo or their .268 round nose bullet and have carbine or long rifle without the cut barrel and build up the front sight , 2 inch groups are no problem.
Tdub
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Hi guys I recently acquired the M38 Breshia. She is really nice and fires well. But in that respect she is like the Mosin If the chamber isn't squeeky clean, you'll wind up doing a lot of bolt slapping. There was no date on her so I wound up looking up some of her parts, along with info I obtained from the man I got her from. New philly sports in Ohio. He knows a lot about Carcanos There isn't a great deal written about them. This site has some info, along with Collect and shoot 2006. Strangely you would think that since Dallas 63 folks would have tried to find out more about the rifle that killed JFK. No I don't believe that my Carcano was that particular type of Cancano Mine is the M38 carbine. That rifle as I understand it was a long rifle. I have the 8mm conversion, and as I understand there were only 16,000 of these made, and she might be something of a rare bird
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Paulm, if you can read German, get
"Il Novantuno Mannlicher-Carcano"
by Wolfgang Riepe
ISBN 3-932077-30-X
ISBN 978-3-932077-30-2
(I don't know why it has 2 numbers)
Publishers: VS-BOOKS, Herne
VS-Books - Waffentechnik, Militrgeschichte, Reenactment
Even if you are not fluent in German, the info in this book (390 pages) beats everything I have found on the internet put together - including an Italian book!
Patrick
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Paulm, there is a thread here (this thread, in fact; see page 2) regarding (in part) a faithful copy of the Oswald Carcano. It is based on a 6.5mm TS-38. TS-38 originally was the simple-sighted 7.35mm version of the older TS 6.5mm short rifles, but then the war got going so they decided very wisely to stay with the 6.5mm and so manufactured the TS-38 as a 6.5 also. Lots of the 7.35mm TSs went to the Finns. The 7.92mm TS-38s were made right near the end of the war, when the factory was under German occupation.
Rifles made for Italian military use were dated, often just with the last 3 digits of the date. Nice thread on here about a 1917 TS; it is dated simply "917". Rifles made in the Fascist period are actually dated in TWO systems at the same time: Christian year (1940) and year of the Refounded Roman Empire (XVIII), which I think is just incredibly NEAT, being an historian of sorts. Would have been even more fun if they had dated them in the Roman calendar (this is 2764 AUC, I think) but that likely was too much for some folks.
Most important point is to have fun with the critters. You have a Very Nice Toy, BTW.
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I want to thank SMELLIE for a lot of infor mation. I do have a question about loding an 1891 for accuracy. I have not been able to load it with any luck as far as accuracy. It is an early one with the "gain twist" (it looks weird if you look closely) and regardless of what load I have tried I would be better off throwing it at a target. I have kept the loads fairly light out of consideration of it's age.
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jmoore, my Carcanos are also tight to close. There is little if any expansion visible on the extracted cases. I've seen more than a couple of the 7.35 calibre models with "green" paint on the trigger/enbloc houseings. I always surmised that was done as a war time expedient to quickly indentify the ammunition it required.
I was told by an old Italian soldier, that they had several of them where he was stationed in Africa. He also stated that they had little if any ammunition for them. They were mainly kept in racks and ignored. Maybe, that why they are usually in such good shape when they are found.