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    I see double and triple stamps but don’t see the letter “W” and star orientation is a big “if”.




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    From my experience of Indonesian kit, certainly the stuff captured by us in Borneo, then it's just TOOOOOO good for their stuff. At that time they lacked paint, oil and cleaning kits!

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    On my No.4 Mk1* , I have a only a D on the barrel flat and nothing else on the 2 groove barrel except up near the muzzle where the bayonet attaches. There I have a P and another P is on the bolt head.

    I also have a 4 on the right side of the stock socket and nothing else there.

    Anyone have any ideas what they mean?
    Last edited by armabill; 02-13-2010 at 03:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krinko View Post
    scvpiper,
    Don't count on that being an Indonesian mark----
    Take a look at this "Star with a W in it" and see if the marks on your barrel might match.
    The one in the first photo is in wood, but the majority of these were on the receiver ring. The marks in steel are almost always partial, unclear or chattered---like yours are.
    Orientation is always one point down, two points up---which seems to resemble those that you have.
    So far, nobody knows who made these.
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    I also had a Savage with the same marking on the receiver ring

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    Quote Originally Posted by armabill View Post
    On my No.4 Mk1* , I have a only a D on the barrel flat and nothing else on the 2 groove barrel except up near the muzzle where the bayonet attaches. There I have a P.

    I also have a P on the right side of the stock socket and nothing else there.

    Another P is on the bolt head.

    Anyone have any ideas what they mean?
    If its a capital D in a circle that means 'draw lapped barrel'

    A capital D (on its own) "New standard of finish for bore" (have not got a clue what that means !!)
    I started this life with nothing and so far have managed to keep most of it.

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    Forgot to add that my Savage was converted to the Mk1/3 but had no marking to indicate this upgrade.

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    I think Peter mentioned that "W in a star" was a Woolwich inspection mark, and not Weedon, which was another possibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan de Enfield View Post
    If its a capital D in a circle that means 'draw lapped barrel'

    A capital D (on its own) "New standard of finish for bore" (have not got a clue what that means !!)
    It's just a capital D on it's own.

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    I don't think it's Weedon either ....

    In reference to the W.R.S. (Weedon Repair Standard) sub-contractors. Referring to Ian Skennertonicon's book "The Broad Arrow", a rifle having undergone W.R.S. repairs, may be identified by a six (6) pointed star stamped into the wood, with a letter stamped underneath it indicating the specific sub-contractor who did the work. For example, the pics below of 1944 M47c (BSA Shirley) No.4 Mk1(T) has no S51 stamped under the butt, however, the butt itself was changed during a visit to for W.R.S. work to W.W. Greener, as indicated by the six (6) pointed star and the letter V, which was their sub-contractor code letter.

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    I thought the W inside a star was Weedon Supply Depot's mark. Disregard this I should have read all the posts, sorry.
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