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    Ross Rifle Mk II 5*

    Ross Rifle Mk II 5* (Part 1)
    A series of articles starting with “The ‘Stepchild’ Ross” by C.C. Meredith appearing in the November 1944 AMERICAN RIFLEMAN magazine and continuing through the ”Reviving the Ross” and “Ross Reversal” by G.H.V Stent in the April 1945 and May 1946 AMERICAN RIFLEMAN piqued my interest in the Ross Rifle. (These articles created quite a controversy in the “Dope Bag” section of the magazine for several months thereafter – both pro and con.) I had never seen one until I walked into a gun shop in New York and saw one leaning over in a corner. I recognized it by its distinct bolt handle shape and asked to examine it and was allowed to do so. I asked the price and the owner said $10. I offered him $5 and we compromised on $7.50. Neither of us could figure out where the serial number was located so the bill of sale simply says “One M1905 Ross Rifle”. From this page I now know how to identify the S/N.
    The rifle was only in fair condition. The stock was well used and bore several scars. The bore was/is dark but the rifling is sharp. I have fired the rifle and though it is not marked it does indeed have the large chamber. The cartridge case when extracted has very little neck left, the chamber is so large. The bolt face shows no indication of having been fired much. It is missing the hand guard between the receiver and the rear sight base.
    Ross Rifle Mk II 5* Part 2
    The description is as follows:

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    LEFT SIDE OF RIFLE:
    1. On the left receiver wall is the annotation “Ross Rifle Co, Quebec Canadaicon 1905”. It looks to me as if the stamping was made after the receiver was hardened for it is very shallow.
    2. On the barrel there appears to be a pair of crossed flag. In the top opening of the pair is what appears to be a crown. In the bottom opening there appears to be a “P”. In the side openings are marks which I cannot decipher.
    3. Just below this there appears a crown and the letters “I” and “Q” running parallel with the bore with the crown on top.
    4. On the left side of the stock just behind the rear sight are the numbers “182” and “267”. The 182 is above the 267.
    5. On the left but stock just about where the rifleman would lay hs face the numbers are repeated only this time the 267 is above the 182.
    6. The stock has two cross bolts: one just even with the rear of the rear sight and the other just even with the front of the trigger guard.
    RIGHT SIDE OF RIFLE: Reading from the butt towards the muzzle there appears to be a series of marking which lie essentially in three columns.
    1. 60/80
    2. Below that A 13D (It looks as if someone had tried to strike over these with a common screw driver to obliterate them
    3. Two circles the larger being ¾ inch and the inner one being 3/16 inch. There is some sort of notation in the small circle but I cannot read it. Between the inner circle and the outer circle along the bottom of the larger circle appears the work “Quebec”.
    4. To the right of the circle towards the muzzle is the Notation “Roman Numeral II with a 5* above it. Further to the right is the notation “ (Underlined) 796 over 1910”. I take it that this is the S/N and the year of manufacture.
    5. Further to the right and in line with the first notation is the notation’ “6/15”
    6. Further to the right is the notation in capital letters “BMCD”. This had been “struck out” with the screw driver blade and directly beneath is the notation “CEF”. Below that is the notation: I 5” also struck out with the blade.
    Ross Rifle Mk II 5* (Part 3)
    The Sights:
    1. The rear leaf sight is marked at the top “Sutherland Rifle Sight Co, New Glascow N.S. and is really a wondrous thing. The rear of the leaf is marked: “ Pantd May 22 01, Apr 18 05 and May 21 07. The face is marked 6 to 19. I do not know the units.
    2. The slide contains an elevating screw, a lock screw and a windage adjustment screw. The windage part of the slide can be move right or left with an adjustment screw 25 units each calibrated in increments of 5. I do not know what the units are.
    3. Along the left side of the leaf are marks of 6/20/80/80 then a big “1”, followed by 20/40/60/80 and a big “2”. The slide is calibrated from 1 to 10 to act as a venire.
    4. The bolt is marked “51” on the bottom of the bolt handle rood and along the back is the “crossed flags followed by a crown and a “9”
    Ross Rifle Mk II 5* (Part 4)
    It is my conjecture that this is a Mk II 5* which made it to Franceicon with the CEF and was used for training. How it made it back to the US is a mystery. There are no markings ast would indicated that it served with the US Army. Some of my information come from “Sir Charles Ross and his Rifle” published by Museum Restoration Service, Ottawa Canada 1969. I would appreciate any comments.
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    Last edited by Cosine26; 07-25-2010 at 11:50 PM.

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