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    Johnny Cash Garand ?

    What I thought was a legit rebuild now has me guessing? I have a 1941 S.A. garand I thought was simply re-barreled in 1946. Every part on the gun is S.A. but the only thing left from 1941 is the reciever. However all the parts are possibly 1946 & older. Would a re-build tear it down to the reciever & replace every single part? The stock also is a S.A. rework with denmark markings. Any input to make me feel good about this would be appreciated.
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    Tom...

    About rebuilds, and specifically your question:

    Quote Originally Posted by tom123 View Post
    What I thought was a legit rebuild now has me guessing? I have a 1941 S.A. garand I thought was simply re-barreled in 1946. Every part on the gun is S.A. but the only thing left from 1941 is the reciever. However all the parts are possibly 1946 & older. Would a re-build tear it down to the reciever & replace every single part? The stock also is a S.A. rework with denmark markings. Any input to make me feel good about this would be appreciated.
    ...Yes. To the best of my knowledge, rebuilds were for the purpose of returning rifles to "as new" condition. The only way to ensure this was to strip 'em to component parts, measure/guage each and every part, then reassemble.

    BTW, this is why so many M1s are "mixmasters." No rebuild facility paid the slightest attention to the original producer: the attitude was that "parts is parts."

    Dunno about the stock. There again, if it was serviceable, I'd think it'd be reused. Restamped/recartouched, perhaps, but you'd best ask one of the stock experts -- which I assuredly am not.

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    I'm no expert but, any '41 would surely have seen plenty, having numerous parts replaced during the course of the war. After the war was over she probably looked a bit rough. Arsenal guy says "Hmmm, lets start from the beginning." Does this sound logical? Just me guessin'.

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    Johnny Cash? How does he fit in?

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    Your rifle is likely a Fabrique Nationale rebuild. After WWII, the US contracted with FN in Herstal, Belgiumicon, to rebuild several hundred thousand rifles, probably all those that ended up in Europe. The contract ran from 1946-1949.

    ALL rifles were completely stripped. Parts were inspected, & those serviceable were put in huge bins. Starting with the bare receiver, rifles were rebuilt with a combination of used parts & new parts from SA. For obvious reasons, a LOT of wood had to be replaced.

    Your rifle made a subsequent trip to Denmarkicon, then came back to CMPicon as a "Danish return".

    There's no way to definitively identify an FN rebuild, definitely no stamp on the stock other than a proof P. Identification is done by the detective work you have done: a WW2 receiver with post-war parts, none later than 1949.
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    FN rebuild of M1 rifles

    Were there any rebuild markings/cartouches to indicate the FN rebuild ?

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    I'm not sure what to look for to verify any kind of FN rebuild?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rondog View Post
    Johnny Cash? How does he fit in?
    He never really did,that was part of his image The song doesn't do much for me but I would be thrilled with the Garandicon asst. parts not withstanding

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