Closed Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 19

Thread: Type III Safety Characteristics

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size
  1. #1
    firstflabn
    Guest firstflabn's Avatar

    Type III Safety Characteristics

    I acquired a small group of carbine parts and tools. Amongst the goodies were three plain face push safeties. Can anybody help me determine if they are real, commercial, or fake from the following description? I also bought another one before I had any idea of what I was looking at. I include it as well. I am planning to trade these for other needed carbine parts and don't want to mislead anybody. I won't turn loose of them unless the authenticity is clear. The notch depth measurements might be a couple of thousandths off because of the difficulty in aligning the mic - they could be either slightly low or high.

    #1) Shiny blue/black finish, .693" long; .308" wide.; square notch is .258" wide, .153" deep Has slight dimples on both faces (mold casting marks?)

    #2) Black park, .700" long; .311" wide; square notch is .253" wide, .146" deep.
    #3) Black park, .704" long; .311" wide; square notch is .251" wide, .133" deep
    #4) Black park, .700" long; .311" wide; square notch is .255" wide, .158" deep.

    Thanks.
    Information
    Warning: This is a relatively older thread
    This discussion is older than 360 days. Some information contained in it may no longer be current.

  2. # ADS
    Friends and Sponsors
    A Collector's View - The SMLE Short Magazine Lee Enfield 1903-1989. It is 300 8.5x11 inch pages with 1,000+ photo’s, most in color, and each book is serial-numbered.  Covering the SMLE from 1903 to the end of production in India in 1989 it looks at how each model differs and manufacturer differences from a collecting point of view along with the major accessories that could be attached to the rifle. For the record this is not a moneymaker, I hope just to break even, eventually, at $80/book plus shipping.  In the USA shipping is $5.00 for media mail.  I will accept PayPal, Zelle, MO and good old checks (and cash if you want to stop by for a tour!).  CLICK BANNER to send me a PM for International pricing and shipping. Manufacturer of various vintage rifle scopes for the 1903 such as our M73G4 (reproduction of the Weaver 330C) and Malcolm 8X Gen II (Unertl reproduction). Several of our scopes are used in the CMP Vintage Sniper competition on top of 1903 rifles. Brian Dick ... BDL Ltd. - Specializing in British and Commonwealth weapons Specializing in premium ammunition and reloading components. Your source for the finest in High Power Competition Gear. Here at T-bones Shipwrighting we specialise in vintage service rifle: re-barrelling, bedding, repairs, modifications and accurizing. We also provide importation services for firearms, parts and weapons, for both private or commercial businesses.
     

  3. #2
    Legacy Member imarangemaster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    09-19-2023 @ 12:24 AM
    Location
    Northern California
    Posts
    3,308
    Local Date
    04-18-2024
    Local Time
    11:58 AM
    Pics are best for telling.

  4. Avoid Ads - Become a Contributing Member - Click HERE
  5. #3
    Legacy Member INLAND44's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    04-23-2022 @ 07:42 PM
    Location
    VA
    Posts
    1,134
    Local Date
    04-18-2024
    Local Time
    12:58 PM
    I have one in my carbine that is supposed to be genuine. About .702", it's plain on both ends and dark Parkerized, just a little darker than the receiver. Works great!

  6. #4
    firstflabn
    Guest firstflabn's Avatar
    Thanks. I got some help offline from another member and am just beginning to develop a grasp. Here's a couple of pics. Pictures are large, so they take awhile to load. In the second picture the safeties are grouped 1-2 (left to right, top row) and 3-4 (l-r, bottom row). #3 is much shinier than it looks in photo. #4 has slight linear marks and #1 has faint circular marks. Opinions and reasoning behind them are welcome. If any are USGI I'll be looking for opportunity to swap for other parts, but will give my offline advisor first crack. Thanks.

    http://s4.postimage.org/e9uui-31a61763-resize.jpg

    http://s3.postimage.org/KQivi-31a61763-resize.jpg

  7. #5
    Moderator
    (Deceased January 2016)


    Harlan (Deceased)'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    01-04-2016 @ 04:42 PM
    Location
    Texas - USA
    Age
    65
    Posts
    3,727
    Real Name
    Harlan
    Local Date
    04-18-2024
    Local Time
    10:58 AM
    firstflabn, I reduced the file size so they'll load faster and posted your photos below.




  8. #6
    firstflabn
    Guest firstflabn's Avatar
    Thanks, caf. In the meantime I stumbled on some possible further info on #3. CCNL #254-5 has a sketch of a safety that looks like #3 above - the shiny one at bottom left. Like #3, the one in the newsletter looks like a Type II, but with the two dimples of a Type II. Unlike the one in the newsletter, mine also has some material removed from the middle ridge - clearly not wear, but regular grinding/milling marks. The dimples were not visible in the previous photos so I include the new photo here. Any thoughts?

    http://s4.postimage.org/k4i6r-31a61763-resize.jpg

  9. #7
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    usgicollector's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    12-21-2016 @ 09:14 PM
    Location
    IL
    Posts
    448
    Local Date
    04-18-2024
    Local Time
    10:58 AM
    It almost looks like it was a type2 then someone changed it to a type. Interesting pics.
    Dave

  10. #8
    Legacy Member imarangemaster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    09-19-2023 @ 12:24 AM
    Location
    Northern California
    Posts
    3,308
    Local Date
    04-18-2024
    Local Time
    11:58 AM
    It looks to me like someone wanted to make the safety easier/quieter to disengage, but over did it. They had to make two deeper divits for the detent because they took too much out of the middle.

  11. #9
    Legacy Member BrianQ's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    08-21-2022 @ 04:50 PM
    Posts
    466
    Local Date
    04-18-2024
    Local Time
    12:58 PM
    usgicollector wins the prize

  12. #10
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    usgicollector's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    12-21-2016 @ 09:14 PM
    Location
    IL
    Posts
    448
    Local Date
    04-18-2024
    Local Time
    10:58 AM
    BQ

    Was this factory or bubba done? I can see reasons for both doing it.
    Dave

Closed Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. derf's nambu type 14 pistol and type 99 7.7 arisaka
    By DERF in forum Japanese Rifles
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 07-19-2010, 09:10 PM
  2. Type 99 Long Rifle; What Type Of Wood?
    By kar98k in forum Japanese Rifles
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 06-17-2010, 10:32 PM
  3. Is this a real Winchester Type III "EW" safety?
    By paroikoi in forum M1/M2 Carbine
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 10-17-2009, 10:52 AM
  4. TM9-270 U.S. Rifle, Cal. .30, M1903a4 (Sniper's) Characteristics and Operation
    By Badger in forum M1903/1903A3/A4 Springfield Rifle
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 10-14-2009, 10:41 AM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts