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    Ludwig Loewe Co. crested Spanish M93/95...

    I was at a gun show over the weekend when I came upon this rifle. It's a commercial Ludwig Loewe purchased by the Spaniards.The only Spanish mark is the royal crest on the stock. All numbers are matching with the exception of the sight slider but it's missing the sight blade and cleaning rod. Even though the siderail is marked "Mod. Mauser 1895" the rifle is actually a '93 with a flat bottomed bolt that won't close on an empty mag. Here are some pics.

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    The foresight blade is an absolutely standard Mauser blade. Look for suppliers selling K98kicon spares. The blades are available in various heights, and you usually need a tall one (they go to 8-9 mm) if you want to shoot it at 100 yards, because the rifles of that era were typically zeroed for about 300 meters (look it up in Olson). The action is a small-ring action (predecessor to the 1896 Swedish Mauser action) and should be fired with lightish loads - plenty of load data available for this caliber, which is 7mm Mauser. A most effective round that does not hammer your shoulder. But you will probably have to reload with flat-base round-nose bullets for best accuracy, as the throats on these old service rifles are often very deep (manufacture? wear? quien sabe?)

    As to the 93/95 confusion. I think that either Ball or Olson mentions that the factory used up stocks of 93 parts when they started making the 95s, so what you have is not uncommon.***

    And if you follow the methods I have been describing in the Restorer's Corner, about an 1879 Argentineicon RB, it will clean up brilliantly.

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    ***Just checked. It is actually mentioned in Kuhnhausen "Mauser Bolt Actions". Apparently some of the 95 action bodies were milled to take the flat bottomed bolts from the 93.
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    So it appears to be a '93 bolt in a '95 frame.... that was built in '94.

    Interesting.

    Why can't I find something like this?

    Throats in all the old-time 7x57 rifles were very deep by modern standards. The original loading for most countries called for a 174-grain round-nosed bullet... and you just can't make that much lead into something short and still get it into the bore. A friend and I experimented with a pair of 7x57s with the '98 action from the Brazilianicon 1908 purchase. The one with the worn bore we got to shoot almost exactly an inch (after a fair bit of messing about) at 100 but the good one would do 3-shot groups in an inch at 200 yards, did it many times. Needless to say, I was doing the spotting rather than the shooting!

    They can shoot.
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    Thanks for your comments fellas. According to Ball Spain purchased 12,000 of these LLCo crested rifles as a fill in between the '94 & '96 purchases of Spanish crested M93's. With the exception of the '93 type bolt they are essentially the same version supplied to the Boers/ZAR. I guess the Cuban insurgency was heating up and more weapons were needed? Patrick I read your thread on cleaning techniques and found it very informative. I think those methods might be too invasive for this rifle though. I've thoroughly cleaned and lubed the bolt and will just take the action out of the stock to check its condition and then gently clean & remount. The stock will just get a wipedown to remove surface dirt. The bore is excellent and I hope she proves to be a good shooter. Smellie I don't load but a good friend does. A while back we came across a cache of very old FN 7mm. The cases were corroded but he pulled the bullets and mated them with new cases and that's what we've been using since with good results in Spanish, Chileanicon & Serbian rifles. They are flat bottomed and round nosed but I don't know their weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Len View Post
    and will just take the action out of the stock to check its condition and then gently clean & remount.
    It is a good idea to mark (felt pen) the position of the screw slots before removing the trigger guard screws. That way you have a chance of getting something like the same screw tension when you refit the action. The pen marks can be wiped off the metal with methylated spirits or isopropyl alcohol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Chadwick View Post
    It is a good idea to mark (felt pen) the position of the screw slots before removing the trigger guard screws. That way you have a chance of getting something like the same screw tension when you refit the action. The pen marks can be wiped off the metal with methylated spirits or isopropyl alcohol.
    Good advice! Thanks!

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