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    1916 Carl Gustaf Swedish M94 Carbine

    My Dad recently gave me a Mauser my Grandfather purchased in the 1950s or 1960s. I don't know much about this carbine and was hoping to find out more by posting to this forum.

    From what I can tell the numbers match for the items that remain. I'm unable to find any photos of a M94 similar to the one I have.

    Please take a look through the attached photos and let me know what you thin about the condition and how it's been modified.



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    Very good looking, but not original

    Quote Originally Posted by coba View Post
    I'm unable to find any photos of a M94 similar to the one I have.

    No surprise there, as they were never made like that! One of those things that makes you cry at first, and then face up to the fact that you just have to live with it as it is. An (as far as can be seen from here) 100% matching M94 carbine in excellent external condition (I can't see inside the barrel). Could bring up to 1000 here if it had not been altered! It has lost its nosecap and the open backsight, the wood has been shortened, and a Redfield sight has been added - which means that the stock has been cut out and the receiver has been drilled in order to mount the backsight. So you have a combination of irreversible alterations and as-good-as-unobtainable missing parts. It seems as if the person doing this work wanted to make it look like a carbine version of the CG63 competition rifle.

    No real collector value, invalid for service rifle competitions - just a curiousity.
    But by heavens it looks good!

    So enjoy it as it is, if (as I would expect) it is a good shooter. Is the barrel free-floating or does it bear on the fore-end? If it was mine, I would finish off the conversion job by fitting a ring foresight, thus making it look even more like a mini-CG63 - and a very effective little target shooter.

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    I hate to tell you this but dear old Dad bubbaed a true keeper. M94 Cav Carbines are HIGHLY sought by collectors. You are missing the entire front end. I might add you will not likely fix this one. Keep it, hunt with it, good luck.

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    Coba,

    The Swede carbine was the gun everyone wanted to borrow, whn I was a teenager deer hunting in the early '60s. It was perfect just the way it was. On the other hand, I think you cold make up a reasonable facsimile stock and hardware out of rifle stuff. Check gunshows and cranky old guys with guns. Also, your dad may have kept the hardware ... I've got a box of old mauser barrel bands, etc. Was he the kind of guy who kept nuts and bolts in jars in the garage?

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    A dual-option strategy

    Jon, the handguard looks as if it has not been shortened.
    As for the stock, the answer would be to find a scrap M96 Swedishicon Mauser stock and graft on the missing front end section, hiding the joint underneath the barrel band.
    The backsight would be a problem, but not beyond D-I-Y ingenuity.
    The real test would be the nosecap/bayonet lug assembly, which is even longer than on an SMLE.

    Putting those items in the reverse order - if you can solve the missing nosecap problem, then the rest is "do-able".
    But is it worth the trouble?

    On the other hand, clamp-on ring foresights for the Swedes do turn up, and the soldered versions could be adapted.

    Coba, why not fit a clamp-on ring foresight*, to be able to get the best of it as it is, as a target/hunting rifle? This would not be another irreversible operation, so you could enjoy using the rifle in this configuration, while keeping your eyes open for the means to restore the original configuration, as outlined above.

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    *You would knock out the blade foresight and keep it safe. Then clamp one of the foresight assemblies for Anschütz-type inserts onto the turned-down section at the muzzle - easily reversible at any time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by coba View Post
    I'm unable to find any photos of a M94 similar to the one I have.

    Please take a look through the attached photos and let me know what you thin about the condition and how it's been modified.
    Simply check the MKL and you'll find this piece ...

    1907 m94/14 Swedish Carbine (click here)

    Compare the 106 pic detailed photo montage against yours and you'd see what's missing and what you'd need to find to restore it.

    A rare piece for Swedish collectors ...

    Regards,
    Doug

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    Front sight blade looks original to me. Ask your family if there are any parts floating around the garage. Don't throw anything away. I once heard a story about a family keeping some old WWI guns but tossing everything else away. Including a collection of WWI Luger holsters. Never toss stuff away.

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    Calif-steve you sure have some stories(not complaining) I tell some now and then. did i tell you i lived not far from you in cupertino in the 70's. went back in 2007 and my english wife never saw such a beautiful place. sorry off sub bye bye.

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    Thanks everyone for helping me out. I now know what I have and don't have

    My plan is to add small non-reversible changes like a ring foresight as Patrick suggested and enjoy it for target shooting.

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