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    It looks like a New Service because that's what it is. While waiting on the adoption of the new military pistol, Ordnance ordered something over 19,500 of the big revolvers from Colt. Other than the grips and butt markings they are the same, and serial numbered in the New Service range.




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    Here's a close up. SN 33xxx range.

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    They are not EXACTLY the same as a New Service .45Colt Commercial revolver. There are 4 differences I'm aware of.

    1.Smooth Walnut grips instead of black bakelite commercial standard grips.

    2. Chambered for a cartridge that is not REALLY .45Colt, but that will allow .45Colt ammo to be used in revolver (1909 .45 cartridge has much bigger rim than .45Colt)

    3. Ejector rod has 3 knureled sections instead of standard 2 sections.

    4. Lanyard ring on butt of 1909 Revolver.


    I bought one fairly inexpensively maybe 8 years ago because some-one had poached the special grips and ejector rod, and substituted standard commercial parts. At least it was a complete functioning revolver, w/ maybe 50% finish, with mottling, but a bright clean bore. It had been unsold at a pawn shop for at least 3 years before I finally was made an offer by the pawn shop maanager that I was ready to pay for.

    They are really neat revolvers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfoster View Post
    They are not EXACTLY the same as a New Service .45Colt Commercial revolver. There are 4 differences I'm aware of.

    1.Smooth Walnut grips instead of black bakelite commercial standard grips.

    2. Chambered for a cartridge that is not REALLY .45Colt, but that will allow .45Colt ammo to be used in revolver (1909 .45 cartridge has much bigger rim than .45Colt)

    3. Ejector rod has 3 knureled sections instead of standard 2 sections.

    4. Lanyard ring on butt of 1909 Revolver.


    I bought one fairly inexpensively maybe 8 years ago because some-one had poached the special grips and ejector rod, and substituted standard commercial parts. At least it was a complete functioning revolver, w/ maybe 50% finish, with mottling, but a bright clean bore. It had been unsold at a pawn shop for at least 3 years before I finally was made an offer by the pawn shop maanager that I was ready to pay for.

    They are really neat revolvers.
    Where in my post does it say EXACTLY? I said it was a New Service and that is what it is.

    1. If you know anything about the Colt New Service you know that it could be ordered with most any type of grip you wanted, and the military wanted smooth walnut.

    2. The pistol is chambered for the .45 Colt, and is exactly like any other New Service in that chambering. The military cartridge with the larger rim was different, not the pistol.

    3. There were several variations of the ejector rod head, as the early models weren't even knurled. Several improvements were brought out in the 1905 to 1909 period, and the Model 1909 had these.

    4. The lanyard ring was a standard option on all the New Service pistols except the target models, meaning that it could be ordered on any New Service except as noted.

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    i will post my M1909 as i did not see the previous posts and didnt add to those , my late 38LC M1903 , and its replacement the M1909



    its interim replacement M1917 , mines a S&W 45auto or 45autorim ,



    the victory 38spcl seemed a step back but i suspect it was thought the pilots that carried them would not need more than that ,

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