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    Not every inch of Iwo was covered in black sand! Watch the documentaries for this data. It could be morning and it was cool thus the jacket. The sling appears to go to the back of the barrel band. But............ Could be Okinowa or other, the film makers are often sloppy!


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    Quote Originally Posted by CJS57 View Post
    Not every inch of Iwo was covered in black sand! Watch the documentaries for this data. It could be morning and it was cool thus the jacket. The sling appears to go to the back of the barrel band. But............ Could be Okinowa or other, the film makers are often sloppy!
    +1. I have my dad's photos from iwo, and they look just like that.

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    Here is a pic from Iwo. and it shows an area that the ground is light and I did some quick research in one of my books on Iwo this morning. There are several pics of guys in field jackets and on lihght colored ground. Looks like most of the ground except the beach areas is a yellowish hard ground. The bayo lug was a replacement part as early as mid 1944. Hardback mags were far from common at this point, but I think they were being fielded at this time at least in small quantites as test items. I said in an earlier post it would be most likely Okinawa or the PI, but I do believe this could be Iwo now and an original picture. It was early February in the north pacific it was cool enough for the jacket.
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    I thought that it looked funny. In the film maker's defense, they were talking about the photogs who climbed the mountain to witness the second flag raising. Perhaps that was the only photo of him that they had.

    I did a quick scan of the rest of the footage and that was the only 30 round mag that I saw while there were plenty of other carbines shown.

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    I can definitely see the 3 rivets on the bayonet lug ... I think

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    Ruth (p. 580) writes that the first 30 round magazines were produced in early April 1945 - and they were sent to the various service boards stateside for evaluation.

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    If there was a bayo lug in the original picture, it has been erased.

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    The story is correct, Its about Bill Genaust , during ww2 . He was filming on Iwo Jima.(USMC) Look Him up Sgt. William Genaust, Only 3 reels of film came back. Good story
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    But the carbine does look like a later one, Some one might have splice a part of the film. But this was on last night . Bill Genaust

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    There is no type 3 band on that carbine. In fact there appears to be no band at all and there is no band spring on it to hold a band on in the first place. Even the hand guard appears to be wrong where it would meet the barrel band.

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