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    .22 RF Trainers with a question and lots of pics

    Good day all. Just thought I’d post a few photos of a few new trainers that have come to live with me. Ive posted them in the Sept. purchases thread as well. I think a few MKLicon entries may be in order (what do you think Badger?)
    First up is a No7Mk1. All matching numbers with it’s magazine!












    Then the N9. Again matching!










    This is on the butt stock. Anyone have any ideas who or what it could be? I asked Peter who wasn’t sure but surmised:
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    It looks like a Cadet unit marking........ such as Dartmouth Sea Cadets or School Cadet Corps
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    A few pics of my .22 long lee, a bsa commercial. I'd be interested to know if anyone could shed light on when it was made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrinzEugen View Post
    A few pics of my .22 long lee, a bsa commercial. I'd be interested to know if anyone could shed light on when it was made.
    Does it have a date on the barrel near the Knox form?

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    Your rifle appears to made / converted from a Charger Loading Lee Metford Rifle MKII, which in turn had been converted from a Magazine Lee Metford MkII rifle as it does not appear to have a safety catch. As the conversion to "Charger Loader" was done after the introduction of the MkIII SMLE (Skennertonicon) it may be safe to assume, a dangerous thing to do!!, that your rifle was made some time after this date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrinzEugen View Post
    A few pics of my .22 long lee, a bsa commercial. I'd be interested to know if anyone could shed light on when it was made.
    Have a look at my friends Website: http://rifleman.org.uk/Enfield_Rifle_Long_Lee_22RF.htm its agood place to start
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    Thanks for the suggestions chaps - not had the woodwork off as yet, but there are no visible year markings. Yes I had come to similar conclusions having previously read that rifleman article - probably in the 1912-14 period. The thing I wondered about was the article's talk about 'conversion' whereas mine seems to have been made as a commercially available .22 - it's got the BSA Co mark on the right side of the butt socket. I just wondered if that might put it in a different time period possibly ie made to order a bit later???

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    The MLE (Long - Mark I*) and later the CLLE (Territorial service pattern) were offered by BSA for target shooting until the start of the first world war.
    Both were offered with a choice of bolt safety or not and metford or enfield rifling - also with 300 mid-range, 297/230 or 22lr barrels.
    Those produced to the CCLE pattern from new seemed to have SMLE features such as buttplate, rear sling swivel and threaded reinforcing rod.
    Yours seems to follow that pattern although it does not have the windage adjustable sights - so maybe 1909 best guess.

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    Absolutely gorgeous. Everyone is on my WANT list still.

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    Mk II or Mk 1

    From the literature I've been reading, the general consensus is the N9 .22 Navy trainer was made from No. 4 Mk 2 actions.
    The N9 here, and the one I own, are on Mk 1 actions. A friend's N9 is on a Mk 2 action.

    What gives?
    It appears they were made with what they had on hand or could scrounge.
    Mr. Ladler, might you have any insight into this apparent discrepancy?

    (ha, discrepancies with LE's. Who'd a thought it.)



    Quote Originally Posted by No4Mk1(T) View Post
    Good day all. Just thought I’d post a few photos of a few new trainers that have come to live with me. Ive posted them in the Sept. purchases thread as well. I think a few MKLicon entries may be in order (what do you think Badger?)
    First up is a No7Mk1. All matching numbers with it’s magazine!

    https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...86Medium-1.jpg

    https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...87Medium-1.jpg

    https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...89Medium-1.jpg

    https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...90Medium-1.jpg

    https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...91Medium-1.jpg


    Then the N9. Again matching!
    https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...78Medium-1.jpg

    https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...79Medium-1.jpg

    https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...73Medium-1.jpg

    https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...75Medium-1.jpg

    https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...74Medium-1.jpg

    This is on the butt stock. Anyone have any ideas who or what it could be? I asked Peter who wasn’t sure but surmised:


    https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...72Medium-1.jpg

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