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The "Korean Civil War"? Huh?
It was not a "civil war"
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A civil war is a war between organized groups within the same nation state or republic, or, less commonly, between two countries created from a formerly-united nation state. The aim of one side may be to take control of the country or a region, to achieve independence for a region, or to change government policies.The term is a calque of the Latin bellum civile which was used to refer to the various civil wars of the Roman Republic in the 1st century BC.
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Latin EtymologyFrom bellum (“war”) + cīvīle, neuter singular of cīvīlis (“civil, pertaining to citizens”).
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You fail to understand the obvious....the North Koreans, funded by the Communists were intent on taking the whole country.
Anyone who refers to the Korean War as a "Civil War" fails, miserably, to understand what was happening. And, dishonors the brave Koreans and Americans who gave their lives saving as many as possible from the horror that is North Korea today.
Get a grip, and a clue.
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Kill People and Break Things
Going on a tangent here. The top photo gives clarity to the impossible position we put our military in when we employ them in "Peace Keeping" or "Nation Building missions". The military is best at killing people and breaking things. When the appropriate people and things are dead and broken, it's time to declare victory and bring them home. Tangent complete, I'll get back in my cave now.
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Not to get your knickers in a twist - I posted the wikipedia definition of civil War to add context to the discussion.
But you post brings up some questions
If outside foreign support negates a military action as being a civil war how would you then interpret the below information
It is estimated that nearly 15,000 Mexican-Americans/ Hispanics fought in the War Between the States in the ranks of the Confederacy. As a result of the Spanish colonial settlement of the Gulf Coast states and, during the 19th century, Mexican control of the territories that were to become Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona, a significant number of Hispanic-Americans were affected by the outbreak of the war. Colonel Santos Benavides lead the 33rd Texas Cavalry, totaling almost ten thousand Tejanos (Mexican Americans) throughout the War.
Seven Indian Nations Ally With The Confederacy
After the Fort Sumter incident seven Indian Nations officially allied with the Confederate States of America. Those nations were the Cherokee, the Choctaw, the Chickasaw, the Creek, the Seminole, the Shawnee and the Seneca.
The Indian Nations came from the Oklahoma Territory, which is where they had been driven to during the infamous "Trail of Tears." Cherokee chieftain John Ross, in a proclamation announcing the formation of an alliance with the Confederate States of America on June 19, 1861, stated, "The probabilities are, that the next few days will witness the most momentous developments in the history of the continent. Of one result we feel assured, and that is of the final success of our great and glorious cause, and of the eventual defeat and humiliation of our vaunting enemies."
The aim of one side may be to take control of the country or a region - Wikipedia
"the North Koreans, funded by the Communists were intent on taking the whole country"
Seems to match up well with the wikipedia definition - again I am missing the difference
"Anyone who refers to the Korean War as a "Civil War" fails, miserably, to understand what was happening. And, dishonors the brave Koreans and Americans who gave their lives saving as many as possible from the horror that is North Korea today."
I am not sure calling it a Civil War dishonors any one - fail to see your point. Perhaps you had more family that died in that war that I did - One was enough for us
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