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    Scope mount question

    Hey folks, new member here.

    H(T) scope mounts for a No1 Mk3 are about impossible to find, but how about the No4 T mounts on a No1? I know there would be some tapping involved to attach the pads, but if properly installed it seems like it would work.

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    Not even the remotest chance in hell..............

    But just one question if I might be so bold........... How do you propose making an L42 clone from a 1918 BSA No1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    Not even the remotest chance in hell..............

    But just one question if I might be so bold........... How do you propose making an L42 clone from a 1918 BSA No1
    Sorry to have to do this at mealtime, but here's an interesting one.... I'll leave comment at that for the moment. This and others will be the subjects of a posting here very soon....

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    More of a structural analog. The obvious answer as to how would be removing the rear sight, modifying the existing forestock, use No4 upper wood, and attaching a cheek piece on the stock from my Ishy. Once I have the way everything need to be modified, I order new wood and go to work-bedding, nice pillar replacing the front trigger guard bushing, etc. I may even get a No4 mount now just to see what happens.
    Yes, it will still be .303.
    Has it ever been done? I don't know or care.
    Will it work? Won't know until it is done.
    Will it look nice? Maybe. I can always order new wood and reassemble as intended.
    It has harvested 5 deer for me in the 15 years I have had it, so its not a range queen.

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    Might I be so bold as to ask - again - ........... How do you propose making an L42 clone from a 1918 BSA No1?

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    To put it simply, I have a No1, and using parts available to me will attempt to make it look as much like an L42A1 as I possibly can. It will be a clone, structural analog, rudux, a reimagining, etc. Maybe it will look more like a L39. It will certainly look like a No 1 made to look like either. I would like to mount a scope, thus directing back to my original question.

    Or I will use the magic wand we keep at work. Everything gets delivered by a unicorn riding a rainbow.

    Being on the advisory council perhaps you could help me with the project. Why exactly will a No 4 scope mount not work on a No1?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Son View Post
    Sorry to have to do this at mealtime, but here's an interesting one.... I'll leave comment at that for the moment. This and others will be the subjects of a posting here very soon....

    That is sheer brilliance!

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    I think that what Peter is saying is that for an L42 clone, you are starting with the WRONG rifle. It is simply not possible to convert an SMLE/No.1 into a No.4. Although both rifles are based on the same Lee-Enfield principles, they are DIFFERENT rifles. For example, you can't convert a K98K into an M.1903 in spite of them both being Mausers. (Of course now the father and son gunsmiths in the other thread will say that they have done it - and uprated it to 13.2 mm TuF!)

    As to your question, the No.4T/L42 Scope bracket relies on the rifles receiver being slab-sided, which the SMLE/NO.1 ain't.
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    To be perfectly honest and truthful Clutch, I thought your original idea was a spoof or you'd been at the baccy....... There isn't a polite way of telling you that your idea of making a No1 into a clone anything else (except a delisle) is the stuff of fairytales. As for making it into a clone L42, might I just say that you'll need to start with a steel smelting plant, then......

    If you REALLY want a repro No4 or an L42, might I suggest that you just start with a No4, get the repro bits then read this forum fron start to end then get cracking. But starting with a No1 rifle.....................................

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    awe Peter, I was just beginning to enjoy this thread.

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