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    P14 Sniper on GB

    What do the experts think about this rifle? (Sorry if this has already been discussed)

    Britishicon P14 sniper WWI Winchester not enfield : Curios and Relics at GunBroker.com
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    Looks good and is priced fairly.

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    way to high price,not ww1 condition as stated. no volly sights.--charles

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    but if it were mine and i was selling well ofcorse the price would be fine.--charles

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    Quote Originally Posted by mannparks View Post
    way to high price,not ww1 condition as stated. no volly sights.--charles

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    but if it were mine and i was selling well ofcorse the price would be fine.--charles
    It is correct... volley sights were removed during conversion process ...

    Check the MKLicon in the Sniper Rifles Category (click here) for both examples including the BSA and PP scope versions, plus the Alexander Matin conversion ...

    Check the Knowledge Libraryicon for extensive photo montages and all examples of P14 sniper rifles

    No.3 MkI* (T) Rifle (BSA Scope) - (Pattern 1914 Mk1* W (T) Sniper Rifle)
    (Manufactured by Winchester - Serial #W226763)
    c/w Model 1918 (3x) Scope Serial #226763 (Mfg by B.S.A Guns)
    c/w 1907 Pattern leather sling


    No.3 MkI* (T) Rifle (PP Scope) - (Pattern 1914 Mk1* W (T) Sniper Rifle)
    (Manufactured by Winchester - Serial #W196128)

    c/w Model 1918 (3x) Scope (Mfg by Periscopic Prism Co. Ltd.)
    c/w 1908 Web Pattern sling (Mfg in 1913 by M.E. Co.)

    No.3 MkI* (T)A Sniper Rifle - (Pattern 1914 Mk1* W (T)A Sniper Rifle)
    (Manufactured by Winchester) Serial #W209977
    Sniper conversion by Alexander Martin (Glasgow) - Scope Mount Serial #209977

    c/w Model 1916 (3x) Pattern 4 Scope Serial #71262
    (Mfg by Aldis Bros. - Birmingham)

    c/w 1907 Pattern leather sling
    (Mfg by W.T.& B. Co. - 1918)
    (Also marked J.J.M. - 1918)

    Hope that helps ...

    BTW, the opening price is pretty fair for this type of piece ...

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    You wouldn't be able to use the volley sights with that kind of scope mount anyway. Even it it was possible it would make absolutely no sense in putting a long range volley sight on a sniper rifle which is equipped with a scope.

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    I was curious as I couldn't remember about mine so I went and dug out my seven Pattern 1914 Ts and all had volley sights removed, WWI PPco, pre WWII Irish BSA scope contract and WWII Alex Martin offsets.

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    doug thanks, it was my understanding that the volly sight was removed by weedon for service into ww2 and not before.
    also promo's comment, i understand that the v-sight would not be used whith a scope.but which came first the scope or the volly sight?---charles

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    Quote Originally Posted by breakeyp View Post
    I was curious as I couldn't remember about mine so I went and dug out my seven Pattern 1914 Ts and all had volley sights removed, WWI PPco, pre WWII Irish BSA scope contract and WWII Alex Martin offsets.
    hey breakeyp, we sure would like to see those 14ts--charles

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    where do you get your hands on one p14[f\---charles

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    Quote Originally Posted by breakeyp View Post
    I was curious as I couldn't remember about mine so I went and dug out my seven Pattern 1914 Ts and all had volley sights removed, WWI PPco, pre WWII Irish BSA scope contract and WWII Alex Martin offsets.
    Let me repeat that - you have SEVEN of those?

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    Here's some pics of the workers at a Weedon Repair Depot, working on Pattern 1914 rifles. Although the pics are not dated, it is presumablly some time between the first and second world wars .......

    (Click PIC to Enlarge)(Click PIC to Enlarge)

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    badger ,so am i to asume that p14 with the volly sights still intact never made it to weedon,and if so why?--charles

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