Why would you get a .22 cal AR?

[HOOKED ON HISTORY]

I really like your thinking. I just want the kids to be aware and to know how things work. Even though I have a PS3 and play Battlefield 3, when they are here they read books, watch movies. No video games If down the road they are interested in going further I have lots of toys they can go further with. Thanks for your post.

I really like YOUR thinking! Books, now there is a novel idea! Your Grandkids are lucky to have you as a Grandfather. They will cherish the memories of time spent with you forever.

[erno86]

Maybe you should clean your guns once in a while then...

That appears to be a problem you have in isolation. I've never even heard of that one before...Good one!

The converson problem did not happen too me, since I only use dedicated 22 AR upper's. I read about the problem in a gun magazine, along with the pictures of the cracked bolt and charging handle.

Sorry... but I can't give you a source.

[langss]

I really like YOUR thinking! Books, now there is a novel idea! Your Grandkids are lucky to have you as a Grandfather. They will cherish the memories of time spent with you forever.

Well thank you. I noticed early on that parking the kids in front of the TV seemed the easy way out and it was not that way for me. So I give them all kinds of books to look at / read. They my not understand what they are looking at(the younger one's) but they don't want to disappoint. The older boy he is hungry for anything I teach him, so knowing at 16(in today's world) how different firearms work and how to disassemble, clean, reassemble make's him very happy.

[USMCKempeitai]

What is the purpose of plunking down $1000 for an AR in .22LR? Don't get me wrong, I have some nice .22 cal rifles in semi automatic that are fun to shoot so I guess if you have the bucks it would be something to have for sure. In need of enlightenment.

if you want something cheaper to fire than a .223 (5.56x45mm) look into buying an upper chambered in 5.45x39mm which fit in the standard .223 Mags, was comparing the price on bulk ammo and 5.45 was $100-$200 cheaper depending on brand

[langss]

Just to be clear, the .22 Walther now has well over 5000 through it of all different types/brands and only a few of any type/brand generally had a problem. The kids are having a blast and so far the most expensive part has been feeding them, not the .22.

[Col. Colt]

Those of you who don't think the .22 is "relevant", what do you think of dry fire? Have enough money (or Dept. Money) to shoot everything live and real time? Congratulations - but that's not most of us.

Subcaliber shooting should be at least as good as dry fire, and that does very well indeed. Years ago a small rifle team in South America did not have the money for full practice with live ammo, so they did a lot of dry firing. At the Olympics,, they took Silver, despite not having all "live" ammo. Sight alignment, trigger squeeze, follow through - all the same. CC

[Bob Womack]

I'm reminded of the story of a friend of an instructor I had. He was an Army sergeant on their rifle team who was an Olympic shooter. On one rotation for the two years leading up to the Olympics when he was expecting to be assigned to Camp Perry, he was assigned instead to a Hawaiian base that was far from any shooting range. Nevertheless, he was determined to compete in the next Olympics. For those two years he would go home every night, go into his bedroom, and run through the entire shooting match as a dry run, including shooting a tie breaker. That was a two-hour rehearsal every night staring at a dot on the wall and envisioning his aim and the results. He arrived at the next Olympic qualifications not having fired a shot for two years. He zeroed his rifle and dived in. In competition his main opponent emerged and appeared to be superior to him. In the scoring system of the time, competitors shot a couple of extra rounds in the last round in case there was a tie. Our sergeant followed through on his rehearsals and shot his tie-breakers with the same discipline as the rest of the match. Seeing how far ahead he appeared to be, his opponent shot the tie breakers casually. In the end, the sergeant's discipline made the difference and he beat the other shooter by the strength of his tie-breaker shots. He made the Olympic team and went on to medal. All on two years of dry firing.

Bob

[Bill Hollinger]

I saw a special on TV a long time ago that used basket ball as the experiment. A group of people shot hoops with a basket ball and a group practiced shooting hoops without the ball, just going through all the motions of lining up and form. The two groups were nearly equal in ability. I thought that quite interesting.

[Frederick303]

Yes dry fire is very effective, but after 15 tears you become sloppy. The simple fact is once you are older the discipline and high level of interest that young men have is hard to maintain. Adding the .22 cal rifle to the mix really does help with both motivation and to detect small errors that will adversely effect your performance with the service rifle.

[lude92]

i agree with browningautorifle if you do what he is saying you now have two guns in one so you can train with your ar for $15 with 550 rounds of .22 this is what i would do if i had a ar-15