1903 Springfield with an SA/SPG stock

[GUTS]

I just bought a other 1903 Springfield, serial # in the 700,000 range. It has a 1918 dated barrel and the stock is cartouched with an SA/SPG. I know that Garand stocks with the SA/SPG cartouche are uncommon but is this mark uncommon on the 03's? I have one with an SA/GAW but I haven't seen one with the SA/SPG. I bought it on an online auction so I don't have it yet but I can post a picture of the cartouche if someone would like to see it.

[Promo]

SA over SPG is Stanley Ployart Gibbs (hope I remembered that one correctly without a typo), he worked at SA from 1936 to 1950 on both overhauled and new rifles. Which type of stock does the rifle wear?

[GUTS]

I would say it's a type 3 or type 4.

[Johnny Peppers]

Stanley P. Gibbs started to work at Springfield Armory in 1916, where he worked for 35 years, retiring in 1951. His initials show up on SA new production as well as rebuilt rifles when he was advanced to inspector in the 1936 time frame.

Not sure what a Type 3 or Type 4 stock is, but on the Springfield stocks his initials should show up on both rebuild and new stocks in the 1936 to 1940 time period. His initials were the only ones found on the then new Gas Trap M1 Rifle.

[RCS]

This rifle came from Golden State Arms Co in Calif (you know it was a long time ago) barrel is SA 9-35 dated and the receiver is without the Hatcher hole, bolt is NS.

[Johnny Peppers]

This one has a barrel date of 12 -20, but is a June of 1936 1903A1 DCM Sales Rifle. Of the 187 Sales Rifles listed between 1200051 and 1221343, 151 were listed as an A1. For an additional $0.86 you could have your service rifle fitted with the C type stock. On this one, there is no circle P proof on the stock, as the rifles were new and only the stock was changed.

[Rick the Librarian]

I would say it's a type 3 or type 4.

What's that??

[GUTS]

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Unless this information is incorrect.

[Rick the Librarian]

It is incorrect that the "types" have no basis in official fact. Both Jesse Harrison (author of the book that Findley uses on his website) and Joe Poyer, use the "types" to describe parts. They are their own invention. Rather than saying a "Type 3" stock, it is better and more precise to say, "...grasping groove stock with XXXXXX characteristics or markings". Pictures are best "describers of all.

[RCS]

anyone notice the almost square corners on the first SA SPG cartouche and the round corners on Johnny Peppers rifle, I have seen both of these on the pre war cartouches