Reloading recipe needed
I have looked all over the place in the last couple days and can't find a recipe. Even tried Cast boolits. I spoke with the local guy I get my cast from. He has a 110 gr RN, no gas check. Cost is king. I can get 1000 rounds of these for $60. Until I start casting again, it's the only logical choice I have.
I do not need or want a full velocity round. I want a lower velocity round for punching paper that won't leave lead behind.
Have 110gr RN cast, no gas check
Need a lower velocity load that will:
Cycle the action
Not leave lead behind
Is preferably not a compressed load. Less powder is better.
Maybe I'm approaching this wrong. How would I take a load for an FMJ and convert it to something usable for cast?
Thanks for any help
05-30-2012 08:59 AM
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You have to tell us what caliber you're loading for first. If you go to Hodgdon Reloading Data Center you will find all you need. Otherwise you should be buying Lyman cast bullet book for this info. Trusting unknown information from the internet is the quickest way to have a mishap.
LOL. I posted this in the M1 Carbine forum but it got moved. To be honest I had forgotten this forum even existed, my bookmark takes me right to the Carbine page.
You might take a look at the Lee and Oregon Trail Bullet reloading manuals - you'll find some lead bullet info there. Oregon Trail states that 1450 fps is about minimum for semi-auto functioning . - Bob
1450 is good info. The thing I keep running into is what appears to be a significant lack of information for cast bullets. Plenty of stuff for jacketed, softnose, etc. I wish I still had my old Lyman manual.
If you are talking about the 30carbine round I have a good one
13gr H110 powder cast bullet 110gr (or 115gr) I use Berry's plated or MO bullets 115gr cast
small rifle primer (not a mag)
I use RCBS dies with a taper crimp (using a light crimp)
30 Carbine case lengths after re-sizing
1) 1.286" and under (to short may FTF)
2) Between 1.287" and 1.292" (load this)
3) 1.293" and over (trim)
30 Carbine case lengths very important the round "head spaces on the case mouth)
my bullets holes touch each other at 50 yards, 1/2 groups at 100yards (YMMV)
the target should say 13gr
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I have had good luck with a 110 gr cast bullit over 15 gr or WW 296 and if you are worried about leading run a mag of jacketed bullets through at the end.
Hodgdon has a PDF on-line of "Hodgdon H4895 reduced rifle loads for youth hunting, informal target and plinking." It has a 30-06 load for 125 gr. I've been using on an M1917. When I tried switching back to factory ammo, my CMP clubmates complained about the noise!
There's a note in the PDF which says that you can take virtually any Hodgdon recipe and use 60% of the maximum charge; but not to reduce that by more than 10%. They claim this flexibility is unique to H4895's "slow propellant that ignites uniformly in reduced charges."
I noticed that the suggested recipes in the PDF tend to be 75% of the max. charge from my Lee book. For example, 125 grain Nosler boattail FMJ is recommended with 40.5 grains of H4895, which is about 75% of the max. charge according to Lee. The Hodgdon "reduced load" for 130 gr. Hornady SSP is 39 grains, or 73.4% of the max. charge according to Lee.
So although the Hodgdon PDF says to try 60% of max., it sounds like 75% of max. may be a better bet. Unfortunately, they don't list a 110 grain recipe, but I'd say that they imply that the same treatment could be used with other recipes. I'd probably take the Lyman cast bullet recipe for 110 gr. cast, in the diameter you've got, and try 75% of Lyman's listed max. charge.
Last edited by CouldBeWorse; 07-10-2012 at 10:29 PM.