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    Ruptuted case removal

    Had a case separation in my No.1MarkIII today. What is the best way to get it out. Tried to put cartridge in chamber and pull it out with no luck.

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    One of these will do the trick: .303" Clearing Plug (Split Case Extractor).

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    And - if you do get a case extractor, get an 'oiler bottle'. You can then store all your 'must have (may break) parts (extractor, extractor spring, extractor screw) all together, keep it in the butt-'ole for instant use.

    I started this life with nothing and so far have managed to keep most of it.

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    I have military .303 broken case extractors available if in need.

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    If you really were in a jamb with a ruptured cartridge case, you could insert a suitably sized bolt into the chamber so that the thread grips the inside of the broken case and extracts it....., or better still, a screw cutting tap. We used one recently on an old ZB 'Bren'

    If I had a ruptured cartridge in a No1 or 4 I'd look hard at the inside of the chamber because to tear the end of the cartridge case after the considerable primary extraction forces have aided the breaking of the tapered obturation takes some doing.

    Just my thoughts..........

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    Ruptured cases are a common thing for me, varying ages of brass, vintage ammo that should be collected ,not fired and just been reloaded too many times.
    But I very rarely have cases that are stuck in the chamber, they usually just fall out. Chances are that feeding another round into the ruptured case, expanded it enough to jam.
    Once or twice I have had the need to use a case extractor, it's mainly just there for insurance. I also carry a tap and extension for the difficult ones, screw the tap in, if the threading in doesn't loosen the case then a whack on the end of a cleaning rod from the barrel end does the trick.
    The jams that are usual are soft civilian brass, occaisionally these fool cases seem to melt a bit at the rupture, causing a bit of grief.
    Care should be taken when using old milsurp ammo, beside the collector value and the odd click/bang, the case necks and shoulder will often be cracked, causing the case to try to weld itself, as the gas escapes the weak point, the base sometimes ruptures also, if the chamber/headspace is on the margin.

    This vintage is best left in the collection.


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    Thank you for all the replies. It was a piece of RP brass and I guess I got lucky with it. Friend suggested I get a pistol rod and screw a used .45 cal cleaning brush into the end of the cartridge, then pull on it to the rear. Evidently it got far enough into the case mouth and when I reversed the rod it kind of grabbed the inside and pulled it free. Wasn't really awfully tight, just tight enough to hold it.

    I'm gonna keep that rod and brush with me on the truck at all times now.

    Again, thanks for the replies. I will also get one of those broken case extractors. Wonder of a .308 one will work.

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    DPL, NoBS Dave popped over tonight. He says if Warminster can't afford a ruptured case extractor we'll send you one down FOC!

    ATB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Payneicon View Post
    DPL, NoBS Dave popped over tonight. He says if Warminster can't afford a ruptured case extractor we'll send you one down FOC!

    ATB
    Trouble is Warminister dont have to go out and play with crap ammo like us plebes or they only poke things into tight chambers ( N 4Ts , L 42s, and other things to good to name )

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    Thanks for that most kind and generous offer Knobs and DRP. It's almost heart rending........., nay......, tear jerking! But while we've got most things, we didn't have a 7.92 variant. But like Muffer says, once another round is whacked inside the ruptured case, with the force of a Bren return spring and breech block, it does tend to tighten the bugger up a bit!


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