Length claimed is ~150 ft. That would make it a Type II sub. Very strange.
And the image in the linked article? I have absolutely no idea what they're trying to show.
07-27-2012 06:59 PM
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Explorers find downed German U-Boat off Massachusetts nearly 70 years after it sank
no pictures either but at least there is documentation, see what shows up here
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Yup the U-550. The local fisherman have know where it was for a long time as it's in a prime fishing area. They had better be careful what they do on this wreck as the Navy and the State Department could very well step in and tell them to leave it alone and not touch it as it's a war grave site and the German government has asked that all U-boats be left alone because of that. Past stripping of a U-boat during which three German sailors were brought up and returned to shore started it and that created a huge problem for the State Department and the Navy.
Hard Aground is the story of Ralph Eraser, a Canadian
who was posted to Goose Bay, Labrador, during World War II. In 1965 he returned to Labrador to get to know the people better and to solve a wartime mystery.
Why had his station received messages from a German submarine/located inside Labrador? Ralph is joined by two others who are also seeking the answer to the riddle — ex-airman Frank Baird and Karl Runsted, grandson of the submarine's commander.
Thats very interesting Bruce, I,m always concerned when people start to plunder War Graves etc, being a Merchant Seaman myself, plus serving an Apprenticeship in a shipyard building Submarines I know a little about ships etc, and I can see both sides of the coin, bringing them sailors up I think was the decent thing to do, and I,m sure if anyone ever stopped and asked the relatives of these lost semen would it be ok, then I would say the answer would of been yes, but was it about these seamen, or more to do with the cargo in the way the vessel was stripped?
Originally Posted by Bruce McAskill
It was approx 12 years ago when I was visiting U 534, I met an ex Submariner who had sailed on a sister submarine to U 534, I never got the Gents name but it was one of those meetings that you never forget.
It had all started when I booked a visit to U 534, I was at the time about a mile away (as the crow flies) from U 534 looking after a vessel that was laid up.
At the start of the visit we were all told of the dangers etc, and that we must sign a disclamer regarding the fact if ayone did suffer any accident, then it was not possible to sue the company at the time.
once on board U 534 we all gathered and at the time the curator asked if anyone had been on a sub before, I stuck my hand up and explained that I had during my time in the ship yard etc, the guy in charge then asked someone behind me, " and you sir, what is experiance " the reply was "I sailed on one of these", it was the gents accent that threw me as it was Welsh !!!
At the end of the tour we assembled in a large area that had a lot of artifacts from the vessel, it was then I introduced myself.
We talked about the sub etc, and he described the time they left port, he said he was 17 at the time and it was very similar to the film "Das Boat" were it was crammed with fresh food, and this was first on the menu, at the end of a patrol he said things were grim, and the diet was canned fish and condensed milk.
I asked about the accent and he had a Laugh, it was just before the war ended the sub had surendered and he was taken as a POW, the POW camp was in Wales and when the War ended he had an option to stay, he said there was nothing left in Germany for him to return, so carved out a new life in Wales.
The visit had brought back many memories of his friends, most of them all lost at sea.
I never got to get his details as I had to make a call at the time and when I returned he was leaving with his Daughter and Son in law, it was a shame as I would of loved to have a few beers with him.
Going back to U 534, When I visited it was still in one peace, but the trust who owned it, had gone broke and closed, the land was to be sold for development, U 534 was bought my Merseytravel and cut into sections and moved to form part of a small museum.
I think the following link says it all, I just dont think enough was done to preserve it as it was.
Irish Sea Shipping - What's New July 2008Irish Sea Shipping - What's New August 2009
and some more info regarding U 534
The Type IXC/40 boat U-534 - German U-boats of WWII - uboat.net
There was a documentary recently on two (or even three....) U Boat wrecks in the Bristol Channel and they were pretty well unrecognisable. Nothing left to speak of exceot the pressure hull and some framework. It's suprising how well the U Boat that Big Duke speaks of has survived.
But once it's out of the water, deterioration will continue at a greater rate than when it was under water. Just look at HMS Alliance, that's a post war boat. They're going to spend (don't laugh............) £6 million to refurbish it. Heavens, they could build a new replica of a 'GENUINE' wartime S ot T class boat for half that! And it won't have to be seaworthy or even waterproof!
There were a few more suprises about U 534, the Lube oil that was still in the Cylinder LO tanks ( I think it was the Cyl LO Tk), was thought to have emulsified , but in fact it was a synthetic oil that they had been testing.
The main batteries were still in good condition, one of these was sent to the modern day manufacturer and was cleaned up, electrolyte replaced and charged up, it was sent back as good as new and was delivering the correct voltage, and amps.
One of the intact light bulbs that had survived due to an air pocket surrounding it, was removed and tested ok.
I think it was the location U 534 had sunk was the saving grace, possible due to silt/mud surrounding it, low oxygenated water etc.
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The U-853 was one of the last if not the last U-Boat sunk at the end of the war. Her Capt. was reputed to be a die hard Nazi who refused to surrender. He torpedoed a WW1 vintage Eagle class patrol boat off the coast of Maine and then headed south. Off of Block Island Rhode Island he sank the merchant ship Blackpoint caring coal to Boston. But it was not a smart thing to do as there was only about 130 feet of water under him and just a few miles away was the home port of the North Atlantic Destroyer squadron in Newport Rhode Island. There was also a Naval air station not very far away also. Needless to say it did not take long for the sub to be found and sunk. Skip ahead 15 years or so and a man named John Jags started diving on the U-853. He took many things off of it from life rafts to the attack periscope and started a museum. Then he brought three of the crew to shore and that started an international incident. The German government being upset was an understatement to say the least as the sub was a war graves location as agreed to by the US government at the end of the war. The three sailors were buried in Newport Rhode Island with full military honors and each year a member of the German military holds a remembrance ceremony at the grave site. And now you know the rest of the story and why I said the ones working on U-550 have to be careful or risk being closed down.
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