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    Help with A3 Stock Cartouche

    Attached is a picture of my SC A3 cartouche. Can a member tell me what it indicates. JF stamped over RAP. The RA are clear. The P I'm not sure about.
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    JF is prob'ly the last owner's initals , I'm afraid. RA-P is a Raritan Arsenal rebuild stamp or at least a pass through visual inspection stamp . Depends on if your rifle has been redone , and , more importantly , if the rifle was in that stock when said stock was at Raritan.
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    Nice looking scant. Did you clean it up or did it look like that when you got it? It seems pretty nice. At least that little bit I can see.

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    Maybe someone was going to put FJA on the stock, and ended up putting the J first.

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    I bought this gun at a show years ago. The stock is as purchased. I have not cleaned the stock. I find no other marks on the stock other than whats in the picture. It is an SC in 366XXXX range. Since the patina of the upper hand guard (since replace with a new/old piece) did not match the stock, I am assuming it was reworked at some point.

    emmagee1917 - With all due respect, why would someone put their initials on it? Do you mean a military organization or a private owner? Have you seen that before. Seems peculiar, but I suppose every thing has happened at least once.

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    It is not an original factory mark nor any arsenal stamp I am familiar with. I would guess , due to it's simple design , it was added by a private owner . If it had something along the lines of TVA or CD or ??PD or CHP or FBI , then you could make a case that it could have been a military arm given out to another govt. agency for thier use , but I draw a blank with JF . Back when these were cheep non-collectables , lots of sad things were done to them by thier owners .
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    The military never installed scant stocks on 1903A3s, not at rebuild either, I'm sure there are several that can back me up on that. Considering that and the JF (definitely not a US stamp), I'd say a previous owner installed it.
    Perhaps they were going for "JFC" before they realized it was an older 1903 stamp????
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    agree, i belive that the RA-P is a rebuild, and the other mark is Not military of origin.
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    Thanks for the feedback. I'm disappointed it's not a correct stamp. I like my stuff correct, even if not in great condition. As I only have about $300 into this gun and it looks almost new (albeit a frosty barrel), I am still happy with it.

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    If you are going to put your own personal "brand" on the stock, why would you choose to do it cock-eyed over an existing stamp? Did schools or drill teams ever mark the wood?

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