What do you think about this No.4 Mk.I T ?Photos:

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Armiusate.it :: Alessandria : Armi lunghe : Enfield N° 4 (T) .303 British

Details Listing ID:243592
Number of Times Viewed: #83 dal 20 Mar 2013, 10:35
Location: alessandria Piemonte Italia
Price: €2.500 Euro
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Condition Usato :: come nuovo
Manufacturer Enfield
Model N° 4 (T)
Caliber .303 British
Age: Bellico (1914/1945)

CEDO FUCILE SNIPER ENFIELD N° 4 (T) CON CANNOCCHIALE N° 32 CALIBRO 303 B. COMPLETO DI COFANO PER TRASPORTO E CASSETTA METALLICA PER OTTICA, CONDIZIONI OTTIME COME DA FOTO.

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[bow]

Thanks Badger.

[Roger Payne]

Hi Bow,
Can't say too much as could really do with more detailed pictures, especially of the area of the body pads with scope OFF, butt socket, scope markings, views of butt to show if S51 & scope number present etc etc.

However, the cheekpiece is clearly a replacement. I cannot really make out the butt socket markings, but it looks to me like the serial number may start with a '2' which would make me rather suspicious (though I realise a perfectly genuine rifle could have been renumbered). The appearance of the bracket clamps ('rings') where they are numbered to prevent them getting swapped around looks a little odd too - it may well be an original N92 bracket that has been heavily struck up, of course. I note the Italian markings on the transit chest - is the scope Italian marked?

More detailed photo's would really be helpful if you can get any.....

ATB

[Warren]

I'll give odds the scope is a repro......
1- sunshade colour
2- jam rings on turret
3- finish is just too good. Glossy.
4- rifle number on mount is stamped on "an easy place to mark". Most were stamped over the rear leg on the mount.
can anyone lighten up the picture of the top of the scope to see if the range setting datum is a line or a triangle ???
That is usually the tellatail sign of a repro.
Unless one of the makers of the repro has got wise to the gag and changed. There appears to be more than one maker of the repro 32 scopes From pulling a number of them down I see distinct differences in components. Some good and some not so good.
Same as the mounts. Some are good and others are God awful.

[vintage hunter]

I'm certainly no expert on these but a couple things jumped out at me as being different from my pair of originals. I'm a bit suspicious of the front pad. May just be the light causing it but in both pics that show it it appears to be an entirely different color that any of the other metal parts and in the last pic I can't see a solder joint and it looks to over hang the receiver sidewall. Possibly replaced post service by someone not skilled enough to fit it properly or solder it to the body. Also the segment cover screw heads look larger than the ones on an original scope but there again may be replacements. The rear sight is as far as I can tell a stamped Mk III, proves nothing really but it does stick out.

[jmoore]

Hmmm, 'dere Belvedere...

can anyone lighten up the picture of the top of the scope to see if the range setting datum is a line or a triangle ???

Does this help?


Overall, I'd stay away, unless it was way cheap. Or it was available for an extensive "hands on" examination. And then it would still have to be priced as a shooter.

[jmoore]

Certainly Fazackerly. And about the same certainty that it's a "Fanasty 'T'". But the question at this point is whether there's any redeeming features. Chest? Mounts? Or does it shoot well?

[Warren]

The mount does not look like any of the repro mounts I have observed and also the thumb screws have some caca where they would normally have it from years of use. I can also see a little bit of the turret body and it looks a bit rough for the repro's which I am familiar. My initial gut reaction was a known repro make scope however with the little bit of the turret body I can see in the upper left hand side of the above picture I am not so sure now.
The rifle is certainly not a T, but after looking at the scope and mount I am starting to have some doubts it is a repro. It might just be a nice blued H.B.M.co. Mk.1, however the lock rings still do not look right. Just like a woman...entitled to change my mind....somewhat.
Any chances of getting the picture moved to the right to show a bit more of the turret yee kumputer expurts !!!
The first gut impressions are normally right but starting to have a few sober second thoughts on the mount and scope now.
Anyone else want to chime in on this one ???

[jmoore]

Any chances of getting the picture moved to the right to show a bit more of the turret yee kumputer expurts !!!

Just don't call me an expert! 'Cuz ah ain't one of them thar 'pooter whizzes. Don't even own one!