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When I (finally) got possession of mine, the cast hammer was a bit mushed and the 9-spring somehow got lost in shipping so I've had to "repair" my own "kit" by "replacing" several of its parts. Even swapped trigger housings. No biggee.
If you buy a registered receiver, be ware that you cannot have all seven parts in your spares collection, only six of the seven since all 7 unmarked parts have no legitimate purpose and are considered a "machine gun" all by themselves by ATF. If and when the seventh part breaks, you can pick up a replacement easily enough though (since it now has a legitimate purpose (US v Thompson). But if your receiver breaks, you are out a few grand and potentially a couple years of your life originally spent biting your nails and pulling your hair.
If you buy a registered trigger group, stay away, far away, from those serialized on the trigger housing and slide and other non-essential parts. While ATF may have approved their transfer at some earlier date, those are illegitimately marked and are time bombs waiting to go off.
Current wait times to and from a dealer (10 months each way) can really dent one's "determination" but good luck in your quest.
M2's ARE fun!
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CrossedCannons,
are you happy with buying a registered trigger part as opposed to a receiver?
if you don't mind my asking, which part was registered?
i'm really having trouble finding a registered trigger part and when i do they seem to be at a premium of $1K over a whole registered gun.
i hear ya about the nfa stamp wait times, my last one was 7 months. my next one is right at 7 months and i'm still waiting. got one after that and who knows when it'll get here. that's why i'm anxious to get started on the M2 paper work. maybe get my stamp while i can still see the sight on the end of the barrel. i've passed on some seemingly good deals on receivers, i may have to go back and take another look.
thanks,
frank
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BATF has never required that a particular part of the kit must have the number on it , only that one of them do . That is the difference . With a gun , a particular part is called the reciever. It could be a true reciever , an upper or lower half , or a sideplate. With these kits , legally , all seven parts make up the " reciever " and not just one part . If it was not true , they would specify which was the " reciever " . Because of this , they view the whole kit as one reciever , and , again legally , replacing a part would be the same as building a replacement reciever ( for a gun ) which was lost / destroyed beyond repair , which is not allowed , being viewed as building a "new" gun.
But again , one 9-spring looks like another , and who would know if you changed it out ? They have bigger fish to fry , but we should know where we stand when we do something. It's one thing to do 180mph on the freeway , something else to post the video on the internet with full pics of your licence plates , car , and self doing it.
And again , having the reciever does have the advantage that you can have all the spare parts you want , but if you ever sell it , be sure you don't have complete kit makeups left. Sell the extra parts first or include them in the sale.
Chris
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Originally Posted by
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And again , having the reciever does have the advantage that you can have all the spare parts you want ...
Do you have in your possession a registered receiver and 2 or more complete sets of the 7 unserialized M2 parts to use with it?
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3154tm, am I happy with my purchase? You bet But it has proved an expensive undertaking. Just saved up enough from my Ramen menu to buy a Dillon so I can feed it.
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Not at the moment , but I have before. Had to replace my disconnector , so I have only the one in the gun now. Was going to buy another , but the last one lasted 20+ years and I prob'ly won't be shooting in another 20+ .
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You know , now that I think about it , I only had the one carbine ( M1 ) when I papered it in '86 , just before the ban. I had a long talk with the BATF director on reciever guns vs kits before I papered my reciever. I am not 100% sure if the " unlimited spare parts " would apply IF you had more than one carbine in your safe . Esp. if some had the M2 triggerguards , stocks , etc. that some have. As I now have a baker's dozen of these babies , I think I'll play it safe and just stay at one complete set.
When in doubt , err on the side of safety.
Chris
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well, i've made a deal for a registered trigger group/pack and now i need to find a host while i'm waiting 10 to 12 months for my stamp. since i'll be converting it to M2 spec it looks like a late production M1 might be what i need. that would include a stock with the cut out for the selector, round bolt and late slide. anything else i should look for?
thanks again for the input.
frank
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I use a stainless steel ventilated handguard on mine. A recoil check is helpful. And, with your new found ability to empty a full magazine in a second or two, you you'll need lots of ammo as well
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crossedcannons,
turns out this trigger kit is supposed to come with everything i need to convert an M1 to FA including the stock and a perforated metal hand guard. i don't know if any of this stuff, other than the trigger housing, is USGI. would a metal hand guard be after market? it also comes with a canvas sheath. i have no idea what that's all about.
my MACs are already about to bankrupt me and they're 9mm. can't imagine what 30 carbine is gonna do to me. i've started looking and can't find anything under 50 cents/rnd and that's usually out of stock. hopefully, CMP will get something reasonable in.
frank
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Good luck with reasonable ammo prices. But, this wasn't too bad. Early this year the CMP "had" LC .30 carbine ammo, 1350 rounds for $520.00 plus $29.00 S&H in .50 cal cans.
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